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Old July 30th, 2008, 11:59 PM
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So a buddy and I are going to a local casino in August and I've got a $90 dollar matchplay and he's got a $180 dollar matchplay.

Just curious what our best bet is for turning that into cash.

Since it's a one shot deal would I be better off throwing it down on a high + count in BJ (I usually have a 1k roll betting min of 10) or betting Red/Black and testing out the roulette wheel or any other even money bets that are out there? So if we use it in Blackjack for him especially he'd be putting a lot at risk if it turned into a double or split hand.

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Old July 31st, 2008, 12:32 AM
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Just curious what our best bet is for turning that into cash.

Thanks,
JB
There are a few curve balls that a casino can throw at you regarding matchplay promos, so make sure you know the ground rules before slapping down that bet.
Most matchplay tickets are only good for even money bets, but occasionally the dealer slips up or just just doesn't care, so ask him prior to making the bet, i.e. will you get paid 3:2 on a BJ for both portions of your flat bet or just even money on the ticket half? If it's only even money don't play BJ with it. Also keep in mind that in BJ you're only going to win ~43% of all hands, no matter what the count.
The matchplays that I like to use are even money bets on single "0" roulette and field bets on a 3X table IF the house does in fact honor the 2x and 3x payoffs on the 2 and 12, so again make sure you get that clarified before you commit. Both of the aforementioned bets on single "0" and x2/3 field rolls have a HA of 2.77%.
Of course, the pass/ don't pass lines are probably the best odds for any matchplay with an overall HA of 1.4%, so pick your poison.
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Old July 31st, 2008, 02:25 AM
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Just curious what our best bet is for turning that into cash.
Sell the matchplay to another AP for slightly less then EV.
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Old July 31st, 2008, 08:04 AM
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If it is for even money bets only, you should bet it on Player in Baccarat.
If it can be used for non-even money bets, then straight up on a single number at Roulette (hopefully, single zero variety).
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Old July 31st, 2008, 08:53 AM
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More than you ever wanted to know.

http://www.blackjackforumonline.com/...ouponsbjfo.pdf

Note that while single zero roulette might be most optimal, it's also extreme variance. If you could do 90 $1 bets, that would smooth it out.
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Old July 31st, 2008, 11:09 AM
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Can you put down a match play to double a bet in blackjack?
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Old July 31st, 2008, 11:13 AM
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Can you put down a match play to double a bet in blackjack?

No,you can't. But that hasn't stopped me from doing it.It's worked once,out of about thirty tries.
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Old July 31st, 2008, 12:08 PM
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Go to the craps table, wait until a 4 or 10 is the point, and put the coupon down on the don't pass line. Some casinos will allow you to make this bet, most not. I've done it myself.
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Old July 31st, 2008, 01:12 PM
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Go to the craps table, wait until a 4 or 10 is the point, and put the coupon down on the don't pass line. Some casinos will allow you to make this bet, most not. I've done it myself.
Please let me know what casinos will allow you to do this, immediately!!!
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Old July 31st, 2008, 01:41 PM
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Its not a matter of a casino allowing you,its a matter of an employee not knowing any better.
I've had dealers let MPs ride until I lose a bet. I once had a dealer let me put up a MP as my bet when I split Aces,but the pit boss caught it before i got my card.
Dealers don't seem to get much training regarding MPS.
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