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July 31st, 2008, 07:51 AM
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low limit tables on the rise!
Is it me or other casinos starting to increase the number of low limit tables recently. I noticed this the past month at the casinos that I fequent out east that they put out a few more lower limit tables than usual. I think the economy is dictating to the casinos you want action lower the limits or suffer the end results. This is a good thing for beginners with a limited bankroll that cannot afford the grind. Has anyone noticed out west if the tables have started to change their limits. blackchipjim
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July 31st, 2008, 08:25 AM
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In AC there are more low limit tables, and they are actively advertised, too.
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July 31st, 2008, 08:51 AM
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One local place that only had $10 mins previously had a bunch of $5 mins open over the weekend.
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July 31st, 2008, 10:38 AM
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It looks like the casinos are finally figuring out how to take advantage of the movie 21. They will get hordes of low limit players who think they know what they’re doing but are really losing more money than the average players. Since most casinos don’t have to worry about a card counter spreading $5-$50 per hand (maybe making $4 per hour), they can even leave the good players alone. If anything it will encourage the bad players to keep playing. Their hold will be much higher simply because they are catering to more bad players. If they can offer low limit games and keep the tables full it will attract all the wannabe card counters and drive away the skillful players. I can’t believe it took them this long to figure that out!
-Sonny-
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July 31st, 2008, 12:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonny
I can’t believe it took them this long to figure that out! 
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There are many things they have yet to figure out. For example, losing more money by cutting off 2+ decks of 6, to thwart maybe one counter among hundreds of players, with all the added downtime from additional shuffles...
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July 31st, 2008, 01:16 PM
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And surrender! Late surrender helps both counters and casinos. For every counter who knows when to surrender 14 vs. 9 there are dozens of players who will surrender 16 or 12 vs. 7.
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July 31st, 2008, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Automatic Monkey
For every counter who knows when to surrender 14 vs. 9 there are dozens of players who will surrender 16 or 12 vs. 7.
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F*** you, I only play at true counts of +35 or higher, so surrendering 12 vs. 7 is always the right play.
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July 31st, 2008, 04:21 PM
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Interesting, I was just wondering if it was the area I was in lately, or if it was everywhere. $3.00 tables (3-50) where last year were only offered on Tuesday morning, are now certain times every day of the week.
Too bad the rules suck, it would have at least been a diversion....
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July 31st, 2008, 06:46 PM
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I'm wondering if places like AC are finding business is down because gas is so f***ing expensive, so they need to offer a bit of an incentive to bring in people.
Is this being noticed in local joints too, or just places where people are more likely to travel and not have closer casinos? I haven't been to the local places in a while, so can't say.
OTOH: what Sonny says about them finally figuring they can make some money on $5 tables with the wannabees makes some sense. I can think of a lot of times it seemed like non-locals would look at the $15 minimum and go play the slots. Maybe they also figure $5 mins can bring in some fresh blood ... especially during summer tourist season.
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July 31st, 2008, 06:49 PM
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yup jim i've been seeing it as well. even found a DD game with lower limits where that had never been the case.
i was thinking the same thing about the economy being a factor.
also been noticing csm's disappearing as well.
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