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August 9th, 2008, 02:06 PM
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Won $110 in 2 hours yesterday.
I'm a rookie and I was betting the minimum most of the time ($5), so I think I did fairly good.
Rules: 8 deck, dealers hits soft 17, peek
I was up $150. The last hand I put a $20 bet in and got an 7,4. Dealer turned over an Ace (dammit!), but I still followed the basic strategy and doubled down. Unfortunately I only got a 2, and he had a 19. Lost $40.
I followed the strategy about 95% of the time (forgot what to do on some hands, need to study more). I was surprised at how many players don't know anything about basic strategy. Some people were losing like $100 in 30 minutes.
So do you think I did pretty good? I'm going back again tonight so hopefully I do better. I always expect to lose though.
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August 9th, 2008, 02:16 PM
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Congrats on a nice trip.
You did better than you should have.Just as you experianced positive variance,expect negative variance.
You can,and should,bring the BS chart to the table and consult it whenever you are not 100% certain.
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August 9th, 2008, 02:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shadroch
Congrats on a nice trip.
You did better than you should have.Just as you experianced positive variance,expect negative variance.
You can,and should,bring the BS chart to the table and consult it whenever you are not 100% certain.
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Huh? I didn't think we would be allowed to have a chart right there at the table, which is why I left in in my car. I wouldn't want to get kicked out or anything.
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August 9th, 2008, 02:34 PM
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You are permitted to consult a basic strategy chart while playing at every casino I've been to. Some casinos won't let you keep it on the table, but you're free to keep it in your hand or pocket and refer to it as needed.
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August 9th, 2008, 02:38 PM
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Just don't start correcting other players with your chart,and be sure it's the right chart for the game you are playing.
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August 9th, 2008, 03:25 PM
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It's surprisingly easy to have swings of +-$100 when flat betting $5. In fact, if you're flat betting five and want to have a "low" chance of busting out during a session, I'd recommend bringing $200.
That being said, your long term results will converge on the expected house advantage, of losing a little per session.
I actually had a case a while I ago where I cranked through a few thousand $5 hands online (used autoplay, thankfully). The results were making multiple hundred dollar swings during that time. I figure the bankroll "walked" though about $1000 worth of up-down movement, (and I still ended up with a win!)
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August 9th, 2008, 04:41 PM
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Wow!
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Originally Posted by redlinegts85
I'm a rookie and I was betting the minimum most of the time ($5), so I think I did fairly good.
Rules: 8 deck, dealers hits soft 17, peek
I was up $150. The last hand I put a $20 bet in and got an 7,4. Dealer turned over an Ace (dammit!), but I still followed the basic strategy and doubled down. Unfortunately I only got a 2, and he had a 19. Lost $40.
I followed the strategy about 95% of the time (forgot what to do on some hands, need to study more). I was surprised at how many players don't know anything about basic strategy. Some people were losing like $100 in 30 minutes.
So do you think I did pretty good? I'm going back again tonight so hopefully I do better. I always expect to lose though.
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8 decks and hit soft 17, ain't they generous
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August 9th, 2008, 05:07 PM
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Also, the variance in the game can be pretty surprising until you get used to it. Sure, the house edge might only cost you about 2.5 cents per hand with perfect basic strategy, but if you're talking about winning or losing $100 at a time, then you're talking real money.
After one of my first or second trip where I had a series of $25 bets (and was sweating bullets), I actually had to call up a friend to yell "I JUST WON TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS!!'.
I don't do that any more.
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August 9th, 2008, 05:23 PM
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I know the house always has the advantage. What I don't get is why people always say, "you will eventually lose money in the long run because of the house advantage." A buddy of mine is like +2000 dollars over the past 2 months. What prevents a player from winning $100 or more each time they go to the casino? It doesn't seem impossible.
Yes, like I said, I understand the house has the advantage and you're expected to lose, but I just don't understand why everyone says you will lose money in the long run. Are you just basing that statement on the house advantage? I can see a player going and winning over $100 each time. I've seen my friend do it so far.
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August 9th, 2008, 07:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redlinegts85
I'm a rookie and I was betting the minimum most of the time ($5), so I think I did fairly good.
Rules: 8 deck, dealers hits soft 17, peek
I was up $150. The last hand I put a $20 bet in and got an 7,4. Dealer turned over an Ace (dammit!), but I still followed the basic strategy and doubled down. Unfortunately I only got a 2, and he had a 19. Lost $40.
I followed the strategy about 95% of the time (forgot what to do on some hands, need to study more). I was surprised at how many players don't know anything about basic strategy. Some people were losing like $100 in 30 minutes.
So do you think I did pretty good? I'm going back again tonight so hopefully I do better. I always expect to lose though.
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Your just a BS gambler who beat the odds. zg
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