Quick vegas report

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joe42

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A brief report of random places, as fairly accurately noted by me for a Saturday afternoon:

MGM - H17 almost everywhere now, but S17 at a few higher limit tables near the entrance. $10 min. Penetration reasonable, consistent by the notch.

Hilton - Generic H17, $10 min, ok penetration via notch in shoe

Circus Circus - Tables as low as $5, H17, and no notch in the shoe, so penetration varies and can be quite good depending on the dealer. One elderly dealer was painfully slow, though.

CC had a $1 side bet (that J-Q would be your two up cards), with random prize ($20-$3000?) I thought about whether it was countable, but probably not, esp. due to unknown prize; I'll have to analyze later to be sure.

No heat that I noticed whatsoever (1-10 spread @ min), though a dealer and a few players commented on my "unusual" double-downs (basic strategy). *groan*

Off to the bigger strip properties today, maybe Fremont street. If anyone wants me to take a close look at something, let me know and I'll try.
 
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BJforMe

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joe42 said:
A brief report of random places, as fairly accurately noted by me for a Saturday afternoon:

MGM - H17 almost everywhere now, but S17 at a few higher limit tables near the entrance. $10 min. Penetration reasonable, consistent by the notch.

Hilton - Generic H17, $10 min, ok penetration via notch in shoe

Circus Circus - Tables as low as $5, H17, and no notch in the shoe, so penetration varies and can be quite good depending on the dealer. One elderly dealer was painfully slow, though.

CC had a $1 side bet (that J-Q would be your two up cards), with random prize ($20-$3000?) I thought about whether it was countable, but probably not, esp. due to unknown prize; I'll have to analyze later to be sure.

No heat that I noticed whatsoever (1-10 spread @ min), though a dealer and a few players commented on my "unusual" double-downs (basic strategy). *groan*

Off to the bigger strip properties today, maybe Fremont street. If anyone wants me to take a close look at something, let me know and I'll try.
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If you get a chance, I'd appreciate some knowledge of DD around the MGM, 10min. Thanks if you can!
 
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joe42

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BJforMe said:
If you get a chance, I'd appreciate some knowledge of DD around the MGM, 10min. Thanks if you can!
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Sure, I'll see what I can find out; MGM seems to have the best shoe game for me (only S17 I saw) so I'll be there anyhow. I'm new to DD, so I imagine you'd be interested in penetration, and specific rules? Anything else I should look for?

Also, for the record, Circus Circus apparently doesn't have surrender (even though they did the other night). It's a dump anyhow.
 
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BJforMe

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Yeah pen, specific rules, amount of heat if you actually play there, # of tables at $10 level and what time of day sp I can get an idea of whether I need to stay there or go across to NY NY or tropicana . Thanks again
 
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joe42

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Other notes:

Wynn - they had a bunch of $15 H17 shoe tables a few months ago, which they apparently removed or hid really well. They used to be by the sports betting area, but it's all slots there now. The only $15 tables I saw were continuous shufflers.

Cesar's - $25 H17, fairly generic. Didn't play. That was Sunday night.

Riviera - 50% pen on DD/H17, not knowledgeable enough to comment on it further. They did have a $20 for $40 slot deal though, which probably just means that their slot payout is <50%? Might be a good deal for someone disciplined though.

MGM moved table limits up to $50 in the evening on the S17 tables, and had lots of empty seats. Still the only S17 I saw, which is of slight benefit. Their H17 tables were $25, but it's possible they had a couple of $15's, probably similar to the rest of the strip.
 
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tango

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MGM moved table limits up to $50 in the evening on the S17 tables, and had lots of empty seats. Still the only S17 I saw, which is of slight benefit. Their H17 tables were $25, but it's possible they had a couple of $15's, probably similar to the rest of the strip.[/QUOTE]

As of the end of July, the Mirage still had S17 at the tables in the rear of the casino by the "Love" bar. They were $25 and higher. At the rate things are changing though, they may be gone now. Sad...
 
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joe42

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Some more:

MGM: The only worthwhile DD I could find had $100 minimums, and was S17, way too rich for me (red chipper). This is during the afternoon/evening on a weekday. I didn't even see other non-shoe games other than a bunch of 6-5 stuff, which no one should care about.

Tropicana: A few $5 shoe games, H17, pen to 1.5-2 decks left. They had some S17 @ $25 min somewhere, I was told, but not sure. No heat at all, they don't seem to pay any attention to the $5 tables.

Hooters: Interesting DD games, I believe $10 min, H17, 50% pen. I do not think they allowed surrender (they didn't on the shoe games). Shoe games were generic 6D/H17, no surrender. I doubt there was much heat, especially if you walk in with a yard-long souvenir margarita glass. That was on a weekend day (Sat).
 
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ihate17

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May have changed since June

BJforMe said:
If you get a chance, I'd appreciate some knowledge of DD around the MGM, 10min. Thanks if you can!
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The Trop had one double deck table right next to their green chip, S-17 shoes. The DD game was S-17 but if I remember correctly they limited you on what you could double on and there was no DAS.

NYNY had a S-17 double deck game, double any, DAS but with $100 minimum but at slow times could be had for lower limits. They also had H-17 DD available at I believe $25.

ihate17
 
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callipygian

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joe42, thanks for the information.

I suggest not posting exactly where you were on a given day, though. It might be easy for someone in surveillance to track you.
 
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joe42

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callipygian said:
joe42, thanks for the information.

I suggest not posting exactly where you were on a given day, though. It might be easy for someone in surveillance to track you.
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Good point. But I didn't use a player's card anywhere anyhow, I'm also just a red-chipper playing for fun.
 
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