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Old August 10th, 2008, 11:54 AM
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Question Short Term Blackjack Play ($2500 in 1 week)

I have been playing Blackjack for 8 years now trying a variety of different strategies. This past week I have found a strategy that has made me $2500 USD.

I am betting $65 per hand, placing straight bets. If I win the first bet, I leave the table and take a 5 minute break. I then go on to the next table and place the same bet; if I win on the first hand I leave the table, otherwise I play until I get up one unit I leave.

I have been doing this 8 times per visit to the casino. I have lost one time out of 8 total sessions, with net profit after all betting at $2500, normally with $500 per session in about a one hour period.

I always play alone at tables; this is for speed, the fact that I like to play alone, and easy to get in and out.

I realize the long term implications of this, and that no matter how many times you play doesn't really matter in the long run. I am wondering if someone can shed some light if there is benefit to winning one unit and moving onto a different table...a different betting situation. Have I been very lucky doing this, or is there a reason why I have been successful with this?

Normally I can win the one unit bet within a few minutes, sometimes 10 seconds, and sometimes about 10 minutes. I use basic strategy only.

I only take a 12 unit bankroll, and use 6 units at a time. If I lose the first 6 units, I re-evaluate and then decide on whether to continue play for the day.

I get a lot of funny looks from dealers, pit bosses, and security.

It is especially beneficial to get blackjacks betting like this, because it can cut out an individual trip to the table.

So, will I get burned in the long run? Should I bet higher unit amounts with less table visits per session? Is each table session separate, or do they all fall into one long session in regards to overall odds?

I have excellent discipline, great money management, follow the basic strategy to the T, and have the luxury of living in Macau where I am able to visit a casino on a daily basis and find tables with nobody playing at them.

I am looking for some feedback on this please!

Thank you very much,

Bungyaddict
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Old August 10th, 2008, 12:23 PM
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I have been playing Blackjack for 8 years now trying a variety of different strategies. This past week I have found a strategy that has made me $2500 USD.

I am betting $65 per hand, placing straight bets. If I win the first bet, I leave the table and take a 5 minute break. I then go on to the next table and place the same bet; if I win on the first hand I leave the table, otherwise I play until I get up one unit I leave.

I have been doing this 8 times per visit to the casino. I have lost one time out of 8 total sessions, with net profit after all betting at $2500, normally with $500 per session in about a one hour period.

I always play alone at tables; this is for speed, the fact that I like to play alone, and easy to get in and out.

I realize the long term implications of this, and that no matter how many times you play doesn't really matter in the long run. I am wondering if someone can shed some light if there is benefit to winning one unit and moving onto a different table...a different betting situation. Have I been very lucky doing this, or is there a reason why I have been successful with this?

Normally I can win the one unit bet within a few minutes, sometimes 10 seconds, and sometimes about 10 minutes. I use basic strategy only.

I only take a 12 unit bankroll, and use 6 units at a time. If I lose the first 6 units, I re-evaluate and then decide on whether to continue play for the day.

I get a lot of funny looks from dealers, pit bosses, and security.

It is especially beneficial to get blackjacks betting like this, because it can cut out an individual trip to the table.

So, will I get burned in the long run? Should I bet higher unit amounts with less table visits per session? Is each table session separate, or do they all fall into one long session in regards to overall odds?

I have excellent discipline, great money management, follow the basic strategy to the T, and have the luxury of living in Macau where I am able to visit a casino on a daily basis and find tables with nobody playing at them.

I am looking for some feedback on this please!

Thank you very much,

Bungyaddict
wow that's really neat! i really mean it. did you think that plan of attack up all on your own?
even though it's really neat yeah it seems that you'll like you say burn out at some point. so yeah you've been experiencing positive standard deviation and negative standard deviation plus the house edge is probably looming in your future. now if you added some advantage play maybe counting into that mix with some refinement such as wonging out or in you might last even longer. but yeah as of how your doing it well yeah your gambling at a losing game. thats because of like you say all the table sessions work their way to being just one big long session the more you play with that house advantage ever wearing you down. you need to turn the tables on them to where you are playing with the advantage. so but for now you've been lucky enough to accumulate 2.5 grand winnings. now you want to figure a way to protect that loot!
question does Macau just offer CSM tables. tables that continously shuffle the cards after almost every round?
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Old August 10th, 2008, 12:27 PM
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You are just lucky, that's all. There is no skill involved with your system.

If I remember correctly, all the casinos in Macau use Constant Shuffling Machines only, don't they?
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You are just lucky, that's all. There is no skill involved with your system.
whooa there Doof a'int basic stragey a skill? isn't he giving himself a chance to be lucky? but yeah sooner or later the other shoe is gonna drop.
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If I remember correctly, all the casinos in Macau use Constant Shuffling Machines only, don't they?
i thought i heard some games are hand dealt. not sure. thought maybe the wiz of odds had something on that.
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The main effect of the table hopping is... you play slower.

Playing slower results in fewer hands played, which gives the house advantage less time to kick in. In other words, it makes your one week of play more like 2 days of play. And since the house has the advantage on every hand, there's nothing wrong with playing slow.

The other thing that you MIGHT be doing is playing in such a way that you tend to end a session after a small win, but you "hang in there" on losses, until you get back to positive? If so, that tend to results in lots of small winning sessions, and a few really big losses.

So sure, this method could easily hold up for a week, you just haven't had a big loss yet. You will.

Increasing the size of your betting would only increase the size of wins and losses. If you increased the unit without increasing your bankroll, it would also increase the risk of "tapping out" during a session.
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whooa there Doof a'int basic stragey a skill? isn't he giving himself a chance to be lucky? but yeah sooner or later the other shoe is gonna drop.

i thought i heard some games are hand dealt. not sure. thought maybe the wiz of odds had something on that.


Basic Strategy is not a skill.It's rote memorization.Is your eight year old a skilled mathamatician because she can recite the times tables?
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Basic Strategy is not a skill. It's rote memorization.
agreed.
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Basic Strategy is not a skill.It's rote memorization.Is your eight year old a skilled mathamatician because she can recite the times tables?
lol ok shad. what ever you say. lol i not to long ago did a review of the multiplication tables. there were a few i wan't to sure of.
just me getting in the middle of semantics again i guess. i been pretty good at that lately.
all i know is after i learned basic strategy i had quite a bit of respect for it. and then when i learned to count and had some fairly good advantage results or success or luck or standard deviation or black swans or what ever it was. i sort of started in my head to look down on basic strategy. then when the sh!t hit the fan and i cooled my heels a bit flat betting a lot more and just playing basic strategy i developed a new found sense of respect for it.
but for me basic strategy is something i do have to go over and over again every so often or i foget it or get a little slow on it.
so but what ever basic strategy is i think it's rate.
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I have been playing Blackjack for 8 years now trying a variety of different strategies. This past week I have found a strategy that has made me $2500 USD.

I am betting $65 per hand, placing straight bets. If I win the first bet, I leave the table and take a 5 minute break. I then go on to the next table and place the same bet; if I win on the first hand I leave the table, otherwise I play until I get up one unit I leave.

I have been doing this 8 times per visit to the casino. I have lost one time out of 8 total sessions, with net profit after all betting at $2500, normally with $500 per session in about a one hour period.

I always play alone at tables; this is for speed, the fact that I like to play alone, and easy to get in and out.

I realize the long term implications of this, and that no matter how many times you play doesn't really matter in the long run. I am wondering if someone can shed some light if there is benefit to winning one unit and moving onto a different table...a different betting situation. Have I been very lucky doing this, or is there a reason why I have been successful with this?

Normally I can win the one unit bet within a few minutes, sometimes 10 seconds, and sometimes about 10 minutes. I use basic strategy only.

I only take a 12 unit bankroll, and use 6 units at a time. If I lose the first 6 units, I re-evaluate and then decide on whether to continue play for the day.

I get a lot of funny looks from dealers, pit bosses, and security.

It is especially beneficial to get blackjacks betting like this, because it can cut out an individual trip to the table.

So, will I get burned in the long run? Should I bet higher unit amounts with less table visits per session? Is each table session separate, or do they all fall into one long session in regards to overall odds?

I have excellent discipline, great money management, follow the basic strategy to the T, and have the luxury of living in Macau where I am able to visit a casino on a daily basis and find tables with nobody playing at them.

I am looking for some feedback on this please!

Thank you very much,

Bungyaddict
Well, if your goal is to only win one unit, as opposed to at least one unit, I'd play the first bet at the don't pass line since you wouldn't have to double or split. If you lose go play BJ.

Don't know what you are doing exactly lol. Especially with 6 unit rolls "sometimes" lol. If you are up 38 units, how many hands have you played, as a start.

Of course you will lose in the long run, the real question is how long is it likely to last lol.

Heck I think a 10 unit roll will win 1 unit at a double-zero roulette table 85% of the time lol.
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Old August 11th, 2008, 01:12 AM
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Basic Strategy is not a skill.It's rote memorization.Is your eight year old a skilled mathamatician because she can recite the times tables?
I guess Basic Strategy is memorization. But if the 8 year old can't add 5 cards up, he can't apply it lol.

If he can add them up, and can subtract too, I guess he's skilled enough to be a card-counter
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