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Old September 30th, 2008, 08:35 PM
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I cant figure out how to use CVData to sim an 8d DAS cut off at 2 decks using 5$ units. With KO preferred strategy p85 and betting p104 as printed in the book Knockout blackjack. Using the wong out charts p120 also printed in the book. for some reason i get really messed up numbers like my RoR will be much bigger wonging out than play all. or i wont sit out enough hands or my win rate is really low. I am new at using the sims so trying to make a complex strategy like that is beyond me. anyone have a canned sim can be used for wong out or advice on how to run this sim?
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Old September 30th, 2008, 09:01 PM
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I cant figure out how to use CVData to sim an 8d DAS cut off at 2 decks using 5$ units. With KO preferred strategy p85 and betting p104 as printed in the book Knockout blackjack. Using the wong out charts p120 also printed in the book. for some reason i get really messed up numbers like my RoR will be much bigger wonging out than play all. or i wont sit out enough hands or my win rate is really low. I am new at using the sims so trying to make a complex strategy like that is beyond me. anyone have a canned sim can be used for wong out or advice on how to run this sim?
I dont have the book, but I still need more info to use the canned sim. S17/H17? BR? Spread? Wong level?
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Old September 30th, 2008, 10:48 PM
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I dont have the book, but I still need more info to use the canned sim. S17/H17? BR? Spread? Wong level?
S17, DAS, noSurr, No RSA. cut at 2 decks. $5000 BR 1:10 spread.
Wong out if 1 deck delt RC=< -32
2 deck delt RC=< -27
3 deck delt RC=< -22
4 deck delt RC=< -17

RC: ... -7 -6 -5 -4 -3 -2 -1 0 1 2 3 4 ...
bet:... 1 2 2 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10... in units of 5$
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S17, DAS, noSurr, No RSA. cut at 2 decks. $5000 BR 1:10 spread.
Wong out if 1 deck delt RC=< -32
2 deck delt RC=< -27
3 deck delt RC=< -22
4 deck delt RC=< -17

RC: ... -7 -6 -5 -4 -3 -2 -1 0 1 2 3 4 ...
bet:... 1 2 2 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10... in units of 5$
Use Tools-Export to send me the sim configuration. (support@qfit.com)
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I recommend finding fewer decks and better penetration.
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How did you know wonging both in and out of the game at -3 is the same as just wonging out at those running counts? Yes i know that the win rate is very low but i am new to counting so just playing a profitable game is a good benchmark to start with.

However for QFIT i have created the exported file and posted it below.
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How did you know wonging both in and out of the game at -3 is the same as just wonging out at those running counts? Yes i know that the win rate is very low but i am new to counting so just playing a profitable game is a good benchmark to start with.

However for QFIT i have created the exported file and posted it below.
You are not backcounting. You are just wonging out at very low counts. Therefore, you must have a larger spread. You cannot spread 1-10 at 8 decks and expect to have a good SCORE. The betting strategy in the book is designed to keep beginners from losing too much. Unfortunately, you also can't win too much.
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