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October 5th, 2008, 07:09 PM
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6-Deck game with 50% penetration
Any sense in card counting (and using a basic strategy) or just a waste of time if:
6-deck game with ~50% penetration
Limits: $5 - $200
BJ pays 3 to 2
Dealer stands on all 17s
Split on any
Double after splitting allowed
Thanks for the answers.
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October 5th, 2008, 07:20 PM
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Horrible Game for the Casino
The casino may be giving up 30% ev. It's also bad for you 
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October 5th, 2008, 07:21 PM
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No sense in counting with that penetration, unless your spread is absolutely huge
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October 5th, 2008, 07:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nottooshabby
No sense in counting with that penetration, unless your spread is absolutely huge
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Thanks.
I don't have much options to play, so taking into account that I'm "stuck" with these conditions, how large the spread should be (the limits are 5-200)? And besides, if need be I'll be able to bet on one, two or three spots at a time.
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October 5th, 2008, 08:06 PM
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bj6d,
Where is the casino where you are playing? Are you sure there isn't a better option just a few miles away? Some of this depends on if you're wonging in and out. But, if you decide to play heads-up, then a 1-20 unit spread might make this playable (using the Snyder Profit Index). This could be accomplished by spreading to 2-3 hands when the count is favorable, and not just plunking 20 units out on one spot!
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October 5th, 2008, 08:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nottooshabby
bj6d,
Where is the casino where you are playing? Are you sure there isn't a better option just a few miles away? Some of this depends on if you're wonging in and out. But, if you decide to play heads-up, then a 1-20 unit spread might make this playable (using the Snyder Profit Index). This could be accomplished by spreading to 2-3 hands when the count is favorable, and not just plunking 20 units out on one spot! 
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Thanks. Nothing else within the distance, only this with the mentioned options/rules. I can utilize the 1-20 spread and will be able to spread the bets between several spots. Any advise on what counting and beting units techniques to use taking into account the described scenario?
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October 5th, 2008, 08:48 PM
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Can you backcount and wong in? If so, that's your best option - just wait for a positive count, as there won't be that many with only 1/2 the cards dealt.
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October 5th, 2008, 09:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 21forme
Can you backcount and wong in? If so, that's your best option - just wait for a positive count, as there won't be that many with only 1/2 the cards dealt.
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Yes, for now I'm able to backcount and wait for the positives.
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October 5th, 2008, 09:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bj6d
or just a waste of time if:
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Only you can decide if it's a waste of your time or not being limited to a 40-1 spread and/or back-counting or not if mid-shoe entry is allowed or wonging out if it's not. Or even playing all.
Or even voodooing it.
Your money. What risk are you willing to subject it to make whatever over how long?
But, since you have to ask, and therefore is assumed you can't answer your own question, the answer is obvious. Put your roll in a taxable interest-bearing checking account at 0.5%/year and you'll be better off with 100% certainty. It won't even take much time. Don't exceed the federally insured limits per account though. These days that's too much unnecessary risk to take on.
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October 6th, 2008, 12:22 AM
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Waste of time. Id recommend finding another hobby if 6d, 50% pen is your only option.
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