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Old October 8th, 2008, 04:43 PM
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I have been playing primarily SD and betting $5-20: 1-2-3-4 units

I have however been training (tons of hands) with ~2u-1u-4u
which I like and is less obvious and will employ on my next outing.
If I win at 2u and the count goes (+) I let it ride or let half the win ride (3u), if I lose and the count goes (-) I throw out 1u. If I lose 1u and the count goes positive I might throw out 3u and say something like: "I need to win that back"

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If I am betting 1u (neg count) and the dealer shuffles up, should I just stay at 1 unit for the new deck?, or throw out another unit?

I would think to stay at 1 unit otherwise they would wonder why I went to 1unit in the first place during the last deck rather than 2?

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Old October 8th, 2008, 05:37 PM
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It’s up to you. The reason you are betting 2 units off the top is for cover. If you feel like you need the cover, keep betting 2 units off the top. If you would rather save money, don’t bother with the camo. Cover plays should only be done when absolutely necessary anyway.

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Old October 14th, 2008, 11:32 PM
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If I am betting 1u (neg count) and the dealer shuffles up, should I just stay at 1 unit for the new deck?, or throw out another unit?

I would think to stay at 1 unit otherwise they would wonder why I went to 1unit in the first place during the last deck rather than 2?
YES. Stay at 1u. But conversely, if you are betting 4u and get shuffled, bet 4u off the top, and even
if the count tanks continue to bet the 4u UNTIL you lose the hand. (Modified Sklansky Gambit) zg
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Old October 14th, 2008, 11:37 PM
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YES. Stay at 1u. But conversely, if you are betting 4u and get shuffled, bet 4u off the top, and even
if the count tanks continue to bet the 4u UNTIL you lose the hand. (Modified Sklansky Gambit) zg
thanks ZG, that is exactly the way I have been playin it.
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Old October 14th, 2008, 11:40 PM
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It seems to me tha spreading 4 units is not a big deal anyways and is good cover. If the minimum bet is 10 and you are only spreading to 40, then they are not going to look at you anyways. Now if you are playing 25 a hand and spread to one hundred, then you need to think about camo.
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It seems to me tha spreading 4 units is not a big deal anyways and is good cover. If the minimum bet is 10 and you are only spreading to 40, then they are not going to look at you anyways. Now if you are playing 25 a hand and spread to one hundred, then you need to think about camo.
What about playing the $25 min tables and betting:
25 (off the top and <=0)
30 (+1,+2)
35 (+3,+4)
40 (+5 & >)

*Would this be considered 5-6-7-8 units? thus a spread of only 3 units?

Not enough spread?

Or is it bad to mix the red when playing the Greenchip tables?


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Old October 15th, 2008, 06:46 AM
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What about playing the $25 min tables and betting:
25 (off the top and <=0)
30 (+1,+2)
35 (+3,+4)
40 (+5 & >)

*Would this be considered 5-6-7-8 units? thus a spread of only 3 units?

Not enough spread?

Or is it bad to mix the red when playing the Greenchip tables?


thanks

I would consider this a spread of 1-1.5 units - you won't make a profit. You need to be at least doubling your min bet with each increment otherwise your betting too much when you don't an advantage and not enough when you do.
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Old October 15th, 2008, 08:56 AM
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I would consider this a spread of 1-1.5 units - you won't make a profit. You need to be at least doubling your min bet with each increment otherwise your betting too much when you don't an advantage and not enough when you do.

Thanks Harry, that is what I thought.
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Old October 19th, 2008, 08:41 PM
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I would consider this a spread of 1-1.5 units - you won't make a profit. You need to be at least doubling your min bet with each increment otherwise your betting too much when you don't an advantage and not enough when you do.
Actually if you know perfect basic strategy for SD and you play the sweet 16 indexes, depending on the rules it can be a positive game. I ran a similation with on the single deck game offered where I am at. The rules are - stand on soft 17, double only 10 and 11, split up to 4 hands, blackjack pays 3 to 2, no surrender, aces split once with one card and no double after splits. The advantage is about -.37% (I cant remember exactly thought) and the indexes can take this disadvantage to slightly an advantage. Not much, but you should average about 2$ an hour at 100 hands an hour. So sprading 1 unit to 2 units should give you about 20 to 25 dollars an hour on average. I would guess that 1 to 1.5 would give you about 10$ an hour on average at 100 hands per hour. This is taking into account that you are playing perfect basic strategy and the sweet 16 indexes.

Also anytime you mix up the colors of chips it is good, it make it harder for pit bosses and the eye in the sky to know what your betting. Also I did forget to mention. If you at a 5 star casino and you spread 25 to 100, that is not going to bring much attention either, but it will if you are at a smaller casino.

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