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October 12th, 2008, 06:18 AM
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St Croix Casino
This casino definitely isn't one of the best out there for Advantage play, but they certainly offer a fair game. One of the last holdouts in the area to offer S17, I advise all my BS and ploppy friends to go here above all others. I was there on a Saturday night, and here's what I found:
(except for the $3 table, max bets are always 20x minimum)
1-$10 4 deck
1-$5 DD shoe
several $5 DD pitch-- All DD games here suffer from poor penetration. I heard several ploppies complain about the constant shuffling... when will casinos learn? 
2- $10 DD pitch
2- $25 DD pitch
1- $3 6D- I don't remember what exactly the max bet was, but one of the people I went with complained it was ridiculously low. It was less than $25, I remember that much 
1- $5 6D
1- $10 6D.
This casino is to be saluted for offering a fair game. Despite the no DAS on DD, it has the lowest house advantage of any casino anywhere nearby (its sister casino in Danbury excluded.) At least half of the tables were DD! They'd make so much more profit if they dealt deeper. .
Again, not the casino to go to if you're looking for serious AP. But for a fun night with friends it cannot be beat. $3 blackjack, even on a Saturday night. Good buffet.
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October 12th, 2008, 08:18 AM
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Blue
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Originally Posted by Blue Efficacy
This casino definitely isn't one of the best out there for Advantage play, but they certainly offer a fair game. One of the last holdouts in the area to offer S17, I advise all my BS and ploppy friends to go here above all others. I was there on a Saturday night, and here's what I found:
(except for the $3 table, max bets are always 20x minimum)
1-$10 4 deck
1-$5 DD shoe
several $5 DD pitch-- All DD games here suffer from poor penetration. I heard several ploppies complain about the constant shuffling... when will casinos learn? 
2- $10 DD pitch
2- $25 DD pitch
1- $3 6D- I don't remember what exactly the max bet was, but one of the people I went with complained it was ridiculously low. It was less than $25, I remember that much 
1- $5 6D
1- $10 6D.
This casino is to be saluted for offering a fair game. Despite the no DAS on DD, it has the lowest house advantage of any casino anywhere nearby (its sister casino in Danbury excluded.) At least half of the tables were DD! They'd make so much more profit if they dealt deeper. .
Again, not the casino to go to if you're looking for serious AP. But for a fun night with friends it cannot be beat. $3 blackjack, even on a Saturday night. Good buffet.
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Blue, nice report  Thank you. You can blame most of these situations you complain about to ignorance on the part of the casino and some to AP's that think it is funny to burn out these games.
I have been playing in the GNW since Friday and still am, with very good AP conditions and $3 tables,6d, abound with better rules than Croix.
I am also playing a far better DD game than Croix offers.
Thanks again. Keep up the good work.
CP
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Last edited by Sonny; October 13th, 2008 at 10:23 AM.
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October 12th, 2008, 06:35 PM
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hehe, I almost got into a fight with a guy at the poker table there, lol. Yeah they had me removed :P
He blew his top off like he was some sort of genius when he immediatelly called my huge raise when he had pocket 99s and I had 88s.
I was playing tight the whole night too
I think he spite called me and I had him on a leash and didn't know it, cause we got into some bickering earlier. In that case, I should know better when a guy is gonna spite call me
Last edited by deadlywizard234; October 12th, 2008 at 06:47 PM.
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October 14th, 2008, 03:06 PM
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The Mighty Turtle!
I love playing that place! They used to have great pen, last time I went it was mediocre but you could still get a good game if you chose dealers carefully. Don't get hypnotized by the DD, the 4D games are usually the best.
One time I went and got a heads up game and had a girl dealing me over 300 hands per hour all night. Bad session for results but great EV.
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October 15th, 2008, 01:11 AM
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The 4D game wasn't anything great, but it was good. They only had one table of it when I was there, the rest mainly DD and a few 6D.
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October 17th, 2008, 01:38 PM
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I have found DD pitch at $25 levels....alone....is a very nice game at the turtle. Key being ....alone.
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October 17th, 2008, 08:54 PM
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At least one of the two $25 DD tables was empty the whole time I was there on a Saturday night. The pen varied between 45-60%, most always 50-55%.
So heads up isn't hard to come by for a green chipper. But does being heads up really make up for the poor pen?
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October 16th, 2009, 04:17 PM
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When i wrote that, the pen was varying depending on the dealer and their attention span to details. Get some of them talking and they become loose with their skills. Or was my experience at the time. I have been there 1 time since last october...it was a very good session that took less than 30 minutes. I felt robbed that it took 1 hr to drive there...but whatever...I'd rather go home and watch tv on a friday night then lose it all back.
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October 17th, 2009, 07:27 AM
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When I wrote that, the conditions were temporarily much worse than they were before and after that experience.
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October 22nd, 2009, 07:07 PM
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I prefer Mystic to the Turtle.
Turtle does have a better game I think than Mystic, but the gain in EV is partially offset by the drive into the middle of nowhere.
Mystic also has many many more tables and higher limits. At least for me, I think I can make more overall at Mystic.
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