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October 15th, 2008, 04:32 PM
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Video Blackjack
What is the general opinion about those video blackjack machines (similar to video poker machines)? Are they only sucker's bets? I think that most of them, if not all, pay only 1 to 1, for a blackjack, so that fact already significantly increases house's edge. Are there any strategies how to play these, or should we just stay away?
I think I've read somewhere that the video poker machines, like wild deuces are not that bad, speaking of odds of possibly making a few bucks. But, I don't remember ever seeing anything on these blackjack machines.
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October 15th, 2008, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DonR
What is the general opinion about those video blackjack machines (similar to video poker machines)? Are they only sucker's bets? I think that most of them, if not all, pay only 1 to 1, for a blackjack, so that fact already significantly increases house's edge. Are there any strategies how to play these, or should we just stay away?
I think I've read somewhere that the video poker machines, like wild deuces are not that bad, speaking of odds of possibly making a few bucks. But, I don't remember ever seeing anything on these blackjack machines.
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Are you referring to the typical "blackjack" game included on regular video poker terminals, with Jacks or Better, Deuces Wild, etc? If so, then you should not play this game. It is impossible to get an advantage and the house edge is very high.
Here's an article on the game I am referring to. http://grochowski.casinocitytimes.com/articles/837.html There is a strategy as to how to play this game in that article, but what's the point when the house edge is >2%!
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October 15th, 2008, 07:45 PM
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Yup, that's the one, and just as I thought, it seems to be a waste of time and money. I did play it once or twice, not for very long (10 - 15 mins) and I actually didn't lose anything, just about broke even, but I'm gonna stay away.
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December 29th, 2008, 11:04 PM
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Good idea Don, steer clear. They're a bad bet. Just like the latest Bally roulette machines (included FYI): Ballys roulette machines
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December 29th, 2008, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DonR
Yup, that's the one, and just as I thought, it seems to be a waste of time and money. I did play it once or twice, not for very long (10 - 15 mins) and I actually didn't lose anything, just about broke even, but I'm gonna stay away.
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These games have their uses. Suppose you are given $50 in free play at a casino. You can cycle it thru these machines with a much better result than a typical slot or even a video poker machine. They are also a decent way of building up slot points.
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January 2nd, 2009, 10:36 PM
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I agree with shadrock, these machines have their uses. Drink Arbitrage comes to mind, although I know of one strip casino now employing a device to counter this comp strategy.
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January 8th, 2009, 03:08 PM
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Yeah i once planned on losing ~25 cents per hour playign these just to get free drinks, after 4 hands i discovered you couldnt double down or split??!?!?!?!?, i guestiated that that woudl push the edge right back to the ~7% disadvantage as created by the dealer acting first. putting me to around 3-4 dollars per hour loss.
Thats too much to pay for free stuff damnit!
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January 8th, 2009, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferretnparrot
Yeah i once planned on losing ~25 cents per hour playign these just to get free drinks, after 4 hands i discovered you couldnt double down or split??!?!?!?!?, i guestiated that that woudl push the edge right back to the ~7% disadvantage as created by the dealer acting first. putting me to around 3-4 dollars per hour loss.
Thats too much to pay for free stuff damnit!
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That's what $5 pai gow poker is for.
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January 29th, 2009, 04:30 PM
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heres comes the dumb questions
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...Drink Arbitrage comes to mind, although I know of one strip casino now employing a device to counter this comp strategy. 
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So, what do they do exactly? I'm new to the casino scene.
As for the roulette machines? is it possible to build comps on those by betting both black AND red on the same spin?
haha sorry if its a dumb question, i just wanna know if theres any possible EASY way to get comps of any sort
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January 29th, 2009, 07:09 PM
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is it possible to build comps on those by betting both black AND red on the same spin?
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Don't forget the zero(s), LOL...just kidding!
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