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Old October 23rd, 2008, 12:50 PM
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I recently started to upgrade from Hi-Lo to Zen. When punching in numbers from CVCX, I noticed that Zen is doing a lot worse than Hi-Lo in the sim. I'm using the "Complete Zen Count" S16 + F4 from CVCX premade playing strategies and the canned Hi-Lo S16 + F4 sim. Is this right?
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Old October 23rd, 2008, 01:22 PM
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is that '98 zen or '80 zen being run?
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Old October 23rd, 2008, 03:42 PM
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is that '98 zen or '80 zen being run?
Playing it makes it seem like the TC is calculated by whole decks remaining, which if I remember is the old one?
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Old October 23rd, 2008, 06:17 PM
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hmm then you got me. i dont have cvcx so i cannot confirm. all i can say is with 8Ds, hi lo's higher betting correlation probably finally overtakes zen's improved playing efficiency. BUT the difference should not be so drastic in SCORE... maybe a few dollars i would guess.
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You should raise your spread from 1:10 to 1:20, to see if the difference, becomes even more apparent. If it does, then the BC, would be the culprit.
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What about a flat bet?
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How many hands is each sim? Somethinf IS off. zg
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How many hands is each sim? Somethinf IS off. zg
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