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Old October 24th, 2008, 05:06 PM
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from what i know, the lucky ladies side bet is profitable at +7 with hi lo.

what about with different counts, such as the zen count? at what count is it profitable?

also, there are lucky ladies with different payouts... for example, some pay up to 1000 to 1 for QhQh vs dealer BJ. There are others that pay only 250 to 1 for that. Are the ones with the smaller payouts still worth playing?
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Old October 24th, 2008, 05:29 PM
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http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/show...cky+ladies+zen

also, on tuesday afternoon i saw the 1000:1 event occur (QQhearts + dealer BJ) to my right. the poor guy sitting next to me was bummed it wasn't at one of the LL tables available in the casino we were at...

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Old October 24th, 2008, 10:06 PM
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also, on tuesday afternoon i saw the 1000:1 event occur (QQhearts + dealer BJ) to my right. the poor guy sitting next to me was bummed it wasn't at one of the LL tables available in the casino we were at...
I once made two Royal Match bets at the same time and got two RMs - calc'd the odds at 200k to 1, and then did it again 4-days later - and I was only placing them a few times per week. zg
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from what i know, the lucky ladies side bet is profitable at +7 with hi lo.

what about with different counts, such as the zen count? at what count is it profitable?

also, there are lucky ladies with different payouts... for example, some pay up to 1000 to 1 for QhQh vs dealer BJ. There are others that pay only 250 to 1 for that. Are the ones with the smaller payouts still worth playing?
Zen is profitable at +7. HiLo is +4. zg
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Old October 25th, 2008, 03:09 AM
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Zen is profitable at +7. HiLo is +4. zg
depends on the payout. with AC payout, zen isnt profitable till +11 or so...
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Old October 25th, 2008, 04:49 AM
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depends on the payout. with AC payout, zen isnt profitable till +11 or so...
Whats the AC payout? zg
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Old October 25th, 2008, 10:01 AM
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I once made two Royal Match bets at the same time and got two RMs - calc'd the odds at 200k to 1, and then did it again 4-days later - and I was only placing them a few times per week. zg
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Old October 25th, 2008, 11:27 AM
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Whats the AC payout? zg
AC Payouts:
1000:1 (QQ of hearts + dealer BJ)
125:1 (QQ of hearts)
19:1 (matched, exactly the same cards ie:jack clubs + jack clubs)
9:1 suited 20
4:1 any 20
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Old October 25th, 2008, 05:36 PM
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AC Payouts:
1000:1 (QQ of hearts + dealer BJ)
125:1 (QQ of hearts)
19:1 (matched, exactly the same cards ie:jack clubs + jack clubs)
9:1 suited 20
4:1 any 20
Assuming this payout, what is the profitable count for hi-lo? I thought it was +7 TC, but reading through this thread gives conflicting information?
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Old October 25th, 2008, 08:08 PM
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Assuming this payout, what is the profitable count for hi-lo? I thought it was +7 TC, but reading through this thread gives conflicting information?
according to the sim i originally ran (and linked to above) it becomes barely profitable at +6 for hilo...
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