Advanced technique or not

[rollem411]

Yesterday I took a trip to the casino and had a not so bad day, only walked down a unit or 2 after a couple hours of play..Hard to find a +count after my first 2 shoes. Had a multi-card 21 and dealer draws till she gets 21 also. She starts clearing everyones bets away and takes mine too. I was sitting at first base when she cleared my bet away and almost started dealing again until myself and the woman next to me stopped her and told her the mistake.

The pit boss comes over and asks me what my bet was because the dealer did not remember. I see this as a prime opportunity. Originally I had a $20 bet out, but I decided to tell them it was a good amount of red chips and had to have been about $40. The dealer starts b*tchin that there was no way I had bet that much and takes a few reds and shows the PB what my stack looked like (Ironically it came out to $20)... I told them that it was def. more than $20 on the table and to review the tape to see how much it actually was. It gets them to finally move up to 30. I get a little more greedy and ask for 35 saying they should give me the benefit of the doubt because it was their mistake, but they didn't budge. I took the $30 and had a pretty tough time holding back the smile. I'll probably start lookin for more opportunities like this because dealers tend to do that a lot, but I usually catch it before the bet is pulled.

[cardcounter0]

Advanced scum bag not a technique.

If you are a pretty consistent bettor, the dealer more often than not knows what you bet in the first place. If the pit is tracking your play, you aren't going to get away with an amount very much larger than your average bet.

At some houses, if they do go back to the tapes, the cameras are good enough to tell you exactly what you bet. A good pit boss will probably give you exactly what you bet, and then bounce you out the casino.

Not smart to wait until the dealer is almost ready to start another hand before pointing out a 1st base mistake. A dealer quickly shrugging his shoulders and then just continuing on will wipe out the extra $10 you managed to steal earlier. Try to hold back your smile when that happens.

[Automatic Monkey]

It's a shot (a cheat move that falls short of criminal), not a pure advanced technique. But one worth taking. Good job.

[HarryKuntz]

I walk the line with some of my moves but I think you just crossed it there.

[johndoe]

You might get away with this once, but it's incredibly risky. And for what, $10-$20? It's barely a touch short of cheating.

[EasyRhino]

I don't like it from a risk-adjusted basis. I don't normally want EXTRA pit scrutiny of my bets.

Good to get the bet back of course, I just wouldn't push too hard for an overpay.

[blackchipjim]

I don't think it was worth the effort and you pissed off the dealer to boot. Having a pissed off dealer ain't worth sitting at the table any more it really works against you in the long run. You broke a rule of ap and drew more attention to yourself and play than needed. You now run the risk of being remembered. blackchipjim

[bjcount]

1st you lied....
then they showed you your bet... a stack of red $20...
then you lied again.

why didn't you just reach over and grap a few stacks of black and run?

the line was crossed when you jumped on the opportunity to lie about the size of your bet.

No AP would stoop so low.

I bet you felt like a hero for the ten bucks.

If I were you, I'd run to McDonalds and put ten bucks in the Ronald McDonald House box. Pray you don't get your clock cleaned the next time you go to play, and remember this.....

Welcome to the Obamanation!!!! Redistribution of Wealth Plan..

BJC

[rollem411]

Originally Posted by Automatic Monkey

It's a shot (a cheat move that falls short of criminal), not a pure advanced technique. But one worth taking. Good job.

I knew someone would appreciate the extra effort.

Originally Posted by blackchipjim

I don't think it was worth the effort and you pissed off the dealer to boot. Having a pissed off dealer ain't worth sitting at the table any more it really works against you in the long run. You broke a rule of ap and drew more attention to yourself and play than needed. You now run the risk of being remembered. blackchipjim

The dealer wasn't really that pissed off because it was her mistake after all and I had been tipping her every now and then. Also, what is this ap rule your talking about?...no laws were broken, just a moral decision of lieing or not.

Originally Posted by bjcount

why didn't you just reach over and grap a few stacks of black and run?
BJC

I believe you can go to jail for that if I am correct.

Originally Posted by bjcount

No AP would stoop so low.
BJC

I disagree.

Originally Posted by bjcount

If I were you, I'd run to McDonalds and put ten bucks in the Ronald McDonald House box. BJC

I did give a poor guy a dollar for a jitney ride so he didn't have to walk in the rain so does that count??

For the record, I would never have "misled" a player to get money out of them, but the casino is rich, so f*ck it.

[bjcount]

Originally Posted by bjcount
If I were you, I'd run to McDonalds and put ten bucks in the Ronald McDonald House box. BJC

Posted by rollem411
I did give a poor guy a dollar for a jitney ride so he didn't have to walk in the rain so does that count??

Absolutely! Out with the bad & in with the good. You did the right thing, now go take them for all they got!

BJC