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November 14th, 2008, 11:20 AM
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Do Players Clubs Flag AP Players?
Is it likely in checking in with a rep from a player club that you can get an indication if you are flagged in some way? I was backed off at one MGM property but played at another one, MB, for the next two days, using my card at both locations. Six months later, I played for several days at the MB again with no problem---except in one seession, a floor manager glared at me to the point that a friend who was with me but not playing commented on it. I wasn't winning big or betting big in that short session, so it made me wonder if they are tolerating my play as long as it's modest. Of course he might have just disliked the goofy convention badge I wore prominently  I'll be back in LV, staying at another MGM property where I'd like to accrue points but would much rather play the attractive games without undue attention. So to the point, if I check in with a rep and ask about my status and how much I need to play to earn some comps, etc. is that conversation apt to elicit a comment that could tip me off if there's a problem?
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November 15th, 2008, 12:34 AM
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I'm pretty darn sure the computer has room to store if you're a suspected or confirmed advantage player or cheat.
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November 15th, 2008, 01:24 AM
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Some do and some don't. Typically I can still use my comp credits after a barring. zg
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November 15th, 2008, 10:52 AM
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Yes
I know I have been.
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November 15th, 2008, 03:01 PM
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Zen Grifter is correct. It varies widely.
Long ago I was playing DD at a center strip store and was in the process of being shown the door, while a host stood by trying to give me his business card. He was oblivious to what the angry Pit Critter was growling at me.
Quelle bizarre !
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November 15th, 2008, 06:23 PM
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strategy
Quote:
Originally Posted by EasyRhino
I'm pretty darn sure the computer has room to store if you're a suspected or confirmed advantage player or cheat.
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Sounds like the cautious thing if I want to get in some play at another MGM property is to not use my players card there until late in the trip. I'd probably get pressed to take out a card but that would be better than being watch closely if I've been flagged as a maybe counter. The property I'll be at has good conditions for my level of play and I don't want to miss the opportunity. I plan to move around to avoid too long at one joint but this will be a home base for a good part of a week. But to my original question, I suppose even if the players club rep saw a flag, they wouldn't have any reason to say anything.
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November 15th, 2008, 07:37 PM
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caveat
Is it safe to assume that you are aware that all players who are R.N. ("refused name") on the floor person's
pad are automatically watched until the pit is comfortable with their degree of ordinary ploppiness ?
As virtually all "ordinary citizens" want their comps, it makes the (refusing) player very conspicuous.
Making clever excuses such as "I don't want any more junk in my mailbox", or "My wife's got no business
knowing where I am" etc. will fall on deaf ears, and if anything make them pay a bit of extra attention to you.
Never underestimate the enemy.
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November 15th, 2008, 09:39 PM
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Not necessarily true for all MGM properties and he was talking MGM
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Originally Posted by FLASH1296
Is it safe to assume that you are aware that all players who are R.N. ("refused name") on the floor person's
pad are automatically watched until the pit is comfortable with their degree of ordinary ploppiness ?
As virtually all "ordinary citizens" want their comps, it makes the (refusing) player very conspicuous.
Making clever excuses such as "I don't want any more junk in my mailbox", or "My wife's got no business
knowing where I am" etc. will fall on deaf ears, and if anything make them pay a bit of extra attention to you.
Never underestimate the enemy.
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Sit down at a $10 or $15 table at the MGM Grand in Vegas and no one will ever ask you for a card and if you present one to the pit they will refuse it and tell you that they only rate players who average a $25 bet.
So, you will not garner immediate attention but once you start to spread from $10-$150 or so, they just might then evaluate you.
The same casino will definately question why a large better does not want comps and will evaluate him from the go.
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November 17th, 2008, 11:05 AM
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club flags!
I would say yes the majority do if you are a regular or have hit them up for a small bundle. The place I frequent just puts me in without my card which is kinda spooky but what the hell. They leave me alone for the most part because they can't figuire me out yet. Of course I can't figuire me out yet either.    blackchipjim
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November 17th, 2008, 02:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blackchipjim
I would say yes the majority do if you are a regular or have hit them up for a small bundle. The place I frequent just puts me in without my card which is kinda spooky but what the hell. They leave me alone for the most part because they can't figuire me out yet. Of course I can't figuire me out yet either.    blackchipjim
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good luck them ever figuring me out.
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