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Old November 19th, 2008, 02:19 PM
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Question How do these rules effect house edge?

I've been trying to figure how playable certain games were and the 2 rules I couldn't find anything about are:

Dealer wins pushes (except for 21)

and

You can recieve another card on split aces, however doubling is required (can double for less though).

Anybody know?

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Old November 19th, 2008, 02:37 PM
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I've been trying to figure how playable certain games were and the 2 rules I couldn't find anything about are:

Dealer wins pushes (except for 21)

and

You can recieve another card on split aces, however doubling is required (can double for less though).

Anybody know?

Thanks,

Homeschool
For 8 decks, dealer stands on soft 17, player may double on any first two cards, player can double after splitting, player may split to 4 hands: Player losing all pushes 17-20 increases the house edge by 8.38% making the game terrible.

There's a few rule variation's effects listed at http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack.
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Old November 19th, 2008, 02:50 PM
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Its a terrible game.
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Old November 19th, 2008, 03:15 PM
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Actually the game with the "dealer wins pushes" rule also has a "blackjacks pay 2 to 1" rule. I was just curious if the 2/1 rule ( +2.31?%)made up for or out-weighed the pushes. The rest of the rules are: 6 deck, S17, RES4, NRSA,DA2, DAS. Those are all the rules I could find values for. Would be a pretty sweet game if not for the push thing.

The "second card on aces but only with doubling" rule is actually at another place and I just thought I would ask at the same time. I think other rules for that were: 6 deck, S17, RES4, NRSA,DA2, DAS

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Old November 19th, 2008, 04:36 PM
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You can recieve another card on split aces, however doubling is required (can double for less though).

Anybody know?
Doubling split aces adds .10% to your EV.
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Old November 19th, 2008, 04:46 PM
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[QUOTE=Homeschool;107895]Actually the game with the "dealer wins pushes" rule also has a "blackjacks pay 2 to 1" rule. I was just curious if the 2/1 rule ( +2.31?%)made up for or out-weighed the pushes. The rest of the rules are: 6 deck, S17, RES4, NRSA,DA2, DAS. Those are all the rules I could find values for. Would be a pretty sweet game if not for the push thing.


In 1,000 hands betting $10 a hand, you would lose about 70 hands that would have been a push for a loss of $700.
In that same amount of hands, you'll recieve about 47 BJs and make an extra $235 for them.
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Old November 19th, 2008, 07:28 PM
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I was just curious if the 2/1 rule ( +2.31?%)made up for or out-weighed the pushes.
Well, you did have one thing right - all the rules besides "blackjack pays 2:1" and "dealer wins pushes" are completely insignificant compared to these two rules.
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