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Old November 27th, 2008, 03:07 AM
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Default Citigroup says gold could rise above $2,000

Citigroup says gold could rise above
$2,000 next year as world unravels


Gold is poised for a dramatic surge and could blast through $2,000
an ounce by the end of next year as central banks flood the world's
monetary system with liquidity, according to an internal client note
from the US bank Citigroup.


By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
Last Updated: 7:29AM GMT 27 Nov 2008


An employee of Tanaka Kikinzoku Jewelry K.K. displays a gold bar
at the company's store in Tokyo Photo: Reuters

The bank said the damage caused by the financial excesses of the last quarter century was forcing the world's authorities to take steps that had never been tried before.

This gamble was likely to end in one of two extreme ways: with either a resurgence of inflation; or a downward spiral into depression, civil disorder, and possibly wars. Both outcomes will cause a rush for gold.

"They are throwing the kitchen sink at this," said Tom Fitzpatrick, the bank's chief technical strategist.

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Old November 27th, 2008, 03:10 AM
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Gold Price Set to Explode Higher on Surging Monetary Inflation

The OMEN for a powerful shift in the gold market in my playful mind was the very real earthquake on November 18 here in Costa Rica, a clear signal from the financial gods, no minor tremor, measured at 6.0 on the Richter scale. The tremor confirmed the tectonic shifts to come to the gold market without question. This was the biggest earthquake in my life, no damage at all though, roof and toys intact. Numerous stories testify in aggregate to a severe tightening of the physical market, certain to put pressure on the corrupt paper market managed by the COMEX and its parent NYMEX.

Be sure not to miss the spectacular conjunction of planets and the moon in the southwest sky, over the next few days. The opportunity is for those in the Northern Hemisphere, sorry Australians and New Zealanders. Venus will converge with Jupiter, seen in nearly equal magnitude of brightness. When they are close in a few more days, the moon will enter the picture as a crescent in a spectacular display. For the description of the highly unusual event, check the NASA website (CLICK HERE ). One could regard this event as another omen for a COMEX gold default, a stretch, but a legitimate one.

THE GLOBAL SHAME OF CENTRAL BANKS

On October 29, the US Federal Reserve cut by 50 basis points the official Fed Funds rate down to 1.0% flat. Do not expect the US Fed to be done cutting rates. One week later, the entire globe of beleaguered central banks also cut their official interest rates in a parade of ignominy. They coordinated rate cuts on October 8, and again followed the US Fed in early November. The important Euro CB cut by 50 basis points to the 3.25% level, surely in reluctant fashion given their firm defiant stance. The most desperate CBs are clearly England and Switzerland among the majors, and Australia and New Zealand in the second tier. The Bank of England (BOE) cut by 150 basis points unexpectedly, now at a 3.0% low level.

The Swiss National Bank cut by 50 bpts with the pack, but on November 20 surprised all by cutting another full 100 bpts down to the ultra-low 0.5% level. The Reserve Bank of Australia cut by 100 bpts in October and plans to cut again this month. The Reserve Bank of New Zealand cut by 100 bpts in October and also plans further cuts. The Bank of Canada cut by 25 bpts in October and plans another 25 bpt cut in December. The Riksbank of Sweden cut by 50 bpts to 3.75% in October and plans another 25 bpt cut in December or soon afterwards. With global monetary inflation raging, and official interest rates converging to zero, the global central bankers must hang their heads in shame. THIS IS THE MOST VISIBLE, OBVIOUS,

PREVALENT SIGNAL OF THEIR FAILURE.

The contained messages are four-fold:


• ABSOLUTE CONTAGION: the global economy is suffering from broadly felt toxic shock due to US bonds, a process that has a few more quarters of severe crisis pathogenesis

• POLICY EXTORTION: the major and secondary CB heads want to cut so that the US$ does not fall, coerced with a monetary gun at their heads

• INFLATION EXPLOSION: global monetary growth has gone ballistic, no longer a priority to control, with all talk about limiting price inflation relegated to mumbling in the corner

• ENDLESS RESCUES & BAILOUTS: the government sponsored bailouts are nowhere near finished, sure to be an endless parade of patchwork and stimulus with eventual climax of mortgage aid.

Just think of it. The USGovt, after a coup d'etat pulled off by Wall Street and fraudulent climax diversion of TARP funds, has yet to address the mortgage problem at all. Mortgage aid in meaningful and necessary terms is actively avoided, since it must come with a price tag up to $2000 billion in the United States alone. The nationalization of the US banking, if not financial system, is highly likely to be followed by an eventual virtual nationalization of the entire mortgage system . Such a decision and desperate socialist action will be the death knell for the US Dollar, if it survives to the point when such a program is enacted.

The unbridled monetary inflation is a powerful bull market signal for gold, once asset prices stabilize. Monetary explosion always pushes gold upward in price, but this time much money is directed into a multi-channeled black hole . Today, yet another program was announced, finally to enable more lending capital to banks. They have been starved to date, drained in order to supply the corrupt Wall Street conmen in charge. The coordinated interest rate cuts reveal the strong impact of Competing Currency Devaluation. Foreigners wish to avoid further aggravation to their economies from even lower domestic currency exchange rates. They inflict higher prices upon their economies. Later, foreign governments will order their reserves and sovereign wealth funds to dump USTBonds in order to bolster their domestic currencies, the great counter-attack.

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Old November 27th, 2008, 10:42 AM
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hmmmm. Interesting that their financial accumen could not of been better used to run its own company and then the taxpayer would not have to bail them out. Gold at $2,000.00 maybe in time WAY down the road but not in the near future as far as I can see .
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All that bail-out money isn't necessarily going to filter down through the economy but just basically disappear. Our money now is essentially electronic and the bailout money dissipates.

More likely, our economy is going to go through economic malaise like the Japanese had/have experienced since 1990. A bunch of commodities are just going to go sideways after bottoming out, including gold.
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thoughts . Once they bottom they will be range bound. My guess on gold is $1050.00 down to $650.00 and silver $6.00 to $15.00 or so .Just some parameters I think they will trade in . There is a ton of people wanting to buy gold in the $600.00-700.00 range but there is a tons that will sell at over $1,000.00 as well Platinum 4 months ago was $2,400.00 the ounce and now is well under $1,000.00 the ounce . Talk about taking a bath if you were long in that market - ouch ! Same with corn, soybeans, cattle, pork and most others as well .


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I see gold at $5000 in 36 mos. zg
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I see gold at $5000 in 36 mos. zg


can you please post odds on that ??/ I am sure some of us would like to take that action - on the against side !!!!



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buckle your safety belts. crap, at this point the average joe cant get his hands on it. its a bonanza waiting to happen.


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buckle your safety belts. crap, at this point the average joe cant get his hands on it. its a bonanza waiting to happen.

at that point Big macs will be on sale 3 for $20.00 as well.


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thoughts . Once they bottom they will be range bound. My guess on gold is $1050.00 down to $650.00 and silver $6.00 to $15.00 or so .Just some parameters I think they will trade in . There is a ton of people wanting to buy gold in the $600.00-700.00 range but there is a tons that will sell at over $1,000.00 as well Platinum 4 months ago was $2,400.00 the ounce and now is well under $1,000.00 the ounce . Talk about taking a bath if you were long in that market - ouch ! Same with corn, soybeans, cattle, pork and most others as well .


hopefully the dollar will be strong enough to support low priced gold, but how can that happen with the treasury poised to print money at unprecedented rates?
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