The casinos are a giant immoral lot!

[Thunder]

They don't care one dime about their customers as I witnessed a guy doubling on a 5, 7, and even a hard 12 in a + count. When I asked the dealer and pitboss to please not let the guy play anymore as he was obviously in no shape or frame of mind to be playing bj, their response was "We can't tell the guy what to do with his money."

[FLASH1296]

The so-called 'Gaming Industry' is an 'Evil Empire' that cares not at all about what happens
to their guests, just as long as they continue to bring their money to their properties.

A Casino is a place that was designed to separate the public from its money as efficiently as possible.

It succeeds by taking advantage of the ignorant, the addicted, the intoxicated, the misinformed, etc.

[shadroch]

Originally Posted by FLASH1296

The so-called 'Gaming Industry' is an 'Evil Empire' that cares not at all about what happens
to their guests, just as long as they continue to bring their money to their properties.

A Casino is a place that was designed to separate the public from its money as efficiently as possible.

It succeeds by taking advantage of the ignorant, the addicted, the intoxicated, the misinformed, etc.

Losers laments. I suppose the auto industry cares about their clients, right?
The airline industry? Howzabout Wall Street? Think you local bartender gives a **** about you ?

[actuary]

For what its worth, I've seen casinos that are bound by law not to allow people who are or appear to be intoxicated play. This law is even written on the felt of the table or the sign with the table limit in some casinos I've visited. Yet, time and time again, a drunk or stoned person will play and the casino will not stop them. I've even told pit bosses about these people at my table when it is so blatantly obvious that they are intoxicated. Not once has the staff stopped them from playing.

[Mr. T]

The casinos are a giant immoral lot!

The casinos are no more immoral than the Church Pastor

What can they do if some people want to throw their money at the casino.

I once played beside a guy who wanted to double his 16 against the dealers 10. I cautioned the dealer to get the pit boss opinion on this. The pit boss came over and asked him twice. Sir, this is not a good double down card. Next he said are you sure you want to do this. He answered yes and the pit boss motioned to the dealer to deal the card to him.

[MartyAce]

Originally Posted by actuary

For what its worth, I've seen casinos that are bound by law not to allow people who are or appear to be intoxicated play. This law is even written on the felt of the table or the sign with the table limit in some casinos I've visited. Yet, time and time again, a drunk or stoned person will play and the casino will not stop them. I've even told pit bosses about these people at my table when it is so blatantly obvious that they are intoxicated. Not once has the staff stopped them from playing.

I have seen this frequently as well. They state its illegal for them to allow a publicly intoxicated persons to gamble. I have however seen a casino who had an individual who was drunk, told them they cannot gamble and gave them a free room to stay, based on the fact that if they drove home and hurt someone the casino was liable because the person became intoxicated on their property.

A side note on the point of the conversation regarding morals and the casino:

The casino is providing an entertainment to the consumer. While a lot of people go to a casino to try and win money, and many do. You are suppose to lose, it is your end of the bargain to lose. They see it as a transaction of entertainment and it is your part of the deal to lose. Therefore, they don't really have to stop someone from making a dumb decision.

[ihate17]

We all deal with immoral companies and people all the time and as long as we are aware we are generally self protected.
So casinos are immoral. Soi do not get drunk while you play, do not expect them to feel sorry for you if you lost the rent. As long as you are self responsible and the casino is immoral and not dishonest, you should be fine and it is no big deal or surprise.

ihate17

[Automatic Monkey]

Originally Posted by Thunder

They don't care one dime about their customers as I witnessed a guy doubling on a 5, 7, and even a hard 12 in a + count. When I asked the dealer and pitboss to please not let the guy play anymore as he was obviously in no shape or frame of mind to be playing bj, their response was "We can't tell the guy what to do with his money."

And they were right. As long as he is legally able to play (over 21, not intoxicated or self-banned) he can play any way he wants.

Think of it this way- look how many people think we're crazy for playing the way a card counter plays. But when the casino stops us from playing, it's for their own protection, not ours.

[creeping panther]

Then the casino cannot take excessive advantage.

Don't drink, drug, it will destroy your life in far more ways than just at the casino.

At the recent "BJ BASH" the only drinks these highly skilled AP's had were for table cover. They were all clean living and fit Predators.

CP

[Slick Vic]

As low as my opinion is of casinos sometimes, the fact remains that they don't force anyone to come in and gamble at their tables or machines. Even though they make sure there's no shortage of alcohol available and would be more than happy to get everyone hammered while their money's on the table, they don't force anyone to drink. If you don't have the self-control to restrain yourself, then you shouldn't be in the casino.

And as much as we may hate it, the casinos also have a right to protect their business from APs. Just as we have the right to play with an advantage for as long as they'll let us. (so long as we're not cheating) If a casino wasn't able to detect an AP and he took the tables for 5 figures, then they should learn how to protect the game better.

Although I will say that they should keep a better eye out for drunks. I've sat next to some absolutely blasted people before, and seen them toss black and purple chips away like candy, and then stumble away from the table and probably out the exit doors and into the parking lot.