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Old December 2nd, 2008, 05:34 PM
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Satan's first job is to try to make you believe that he does not exist. If he can do that then the rest is easy. He is the deciever and teller of all lies who will do his work under different guises. I myself never could understand why a person that has lived on this earth for any amount of time can't understand good and evil. If you didn't believe in a God you may have a good excuse. If you do believe in a positive life force here why not a negative? Scientists believe in action and reaction in science why not in all things seen and unseen? I think with all the negativism in the world today the whatever you want to call it may well be winning over the world as we speak. blackchipjim
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Old December 2nd, 2008, 07:12 PM
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Satan's first job is to try to make you believe that he does not exist. If he can do that then the rest is easy. He is the deciever and teller of all lies who will do his work under different guises. I myself never could understand why a person that has lived on this earth for any amount of time can't understand good and evil. If you didn't believe in a God you may have a good excuse. If you do believe in a positive life force here why not a negative? Scientists believe in action and reaction in science why not in all things seen and unseen? I think with all the negativism in the world today the whatever you want to call it may well be winning over the world as we speak. blackchipjim
Very dualistic.

Non-dualists embrace the Oneness of Consciuosness. That is why the Eastern religious philosophies have seemingly
demonic Gods like Shiva and Kali, yet recognize them as faces of the ONE GOD Who IS Everything and Everybody. zg
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Old December 2nd, 2008, 07:47 PM
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Why must Satan exist? Aren't humans capable of lies and evil on their own?

If Satan exists, I don't care. God can take care of him. My job is to resist the evil in myself, not sit there and say "The Devil made me do it."
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Why must Satan exist? Aren't humans capable of lies and evil on their own?

If Satan exists, I don't care. God can take care of him. My job is to resist the evil in myself, not sit there and say "The Devil made me do it."
True, we have enough to take care of with ourselves alone. But I figure the Garden of Eden allegory was trying to point out among other things that we're up against a highly intelligent enemy who adds still another dimension to our struggles. It is one more reason to stay close to our God, and not think that we can do it all on our own.

Speaking to zg's idea of Christian dualism-- Once there was no evil. I think that a Satan or bunch of fallen spirits is testimony to the gift of free will. God couldn't have created evil creatures. They are self made. It isn't a dualistic idea, but more due to a rejection of the One God on which all creation in centered and to Whom it owes its existence.
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