Best Conditions in Canada

[Tuan Lam]

I was just wondering where the best AP conditions in Canada are? This could mean rules, shuffles, penetration, flashing dealers or lack of heat. Rules and pen could be posted on here but I don't think it would be a great idea to disclose shuffles or flashing dealers. PM's for those would probably be the best. Thanks, TL.

[SystemsTrader]

Originally Posted by Tuan Lam

I was just wondering where the best AP conditions in Canada are? This could mean rules, shuffles, penetration, flashing dealers or lack of heat. Rules and pen could be posted on here but I don't think it would be a great idea to disclose shuffles or flashing dealers. PM's for those would probably be the best. Thanks, TL.

So you just expect someone to give you all their AP info and secrets out of the goodness of their hearts. Posting good pen online is not a good thing to do if it attracts too many counters the game will be burned out. Start travelling around and creating your own advantage techniques and situations then when you have some you can trade info with other AP's.

[Brock Windsor]

Originally Posted by Tuan Lam

I was just wondering where the best AP conditions in Canada are? This could mean rules, shuffles, penetration, flashing dealers or lack of heat. Rules and pen could be posted on here but I don't think it would be a great idea to disclose shuffles or flashing dealers. PM's for those would probably be the best. Thanks, TL.

The best BJ rules for a counter are in Alberta. Low table max however. There is a thread on it.
BW

[FLASH1296]

Years ago, during the period of the annual summer's "Calgary Stampede", the world's largest rodeo

there was legal (affordable stakes) 4 deck BJ very deeply dealt and NO heat at all

in Calgary, Alberta. Dealer's were virtual amateurs so dealer error's abounded.

Dealers kept their tokes and would deal forever for a buck.

I think that it was two weeks yearly, but perhaps it was only one.

[Martin Gayle]

Originally Posted by FLASH1296

Years ago, during the period of the annual summer's "Calgary Stampede", the world's largest rodeo

there was legal (affordable stakes) 4 deck BJ very deeply dealt and NO heat at all

in Calgary, Alberta. Dealer's were virtual amateurs so dealer error's abounded.

Dealers kept their tokes and would deal forever for a buck.

I think that it was two weeks yearly, but perhaps it was only one.

How is the history lesson going to help anyone? But you are right. Mr. Lam, instead of playing the games you are seeing in Alberta now, forget about it. Spend your gambling time building a time machine and transport yourself to the Calgary Stampede in the mid 70's to play the game FLASH has told you about.

Here is another story...

Year's ago in a desert town called Las Vegas, there were single deck games galore! Minimum bet was $1! Games with all the good rules we see now on an 8 deck game. The dealers would deal until they run out of cards!

Then a man named Dr. Ed Thorpe came into town and runined it for everyone.

[bjhack]

I've got a game here that is $5-$100, $25-$500, 4 deck, riffle shuffle, with all the good rules except hit S17, ES against anything but an ace! Penetration varies by dealer (law is something like 32-104 cards, those dealers that like dealing rather than shuffling are closer to 32; others are 104+ (I've challenged)).

I believe these rules are available elsewhere in Alberta (including the "dream" Calgary Stampede rules in another post).

Looked at the shuffling techniques, and I think they may be trackable.

Upside, if you are carefull - probably no heat, bad dealersl Incorrect payoffs etc.

Downside - a significant portion of the profits go to charity (by law). If you rape the casino, you are raping the charities, some of who I support. (I've worked casinos; if anyone wants to know why & what, let me know)

As a BS player, who is about even, I'm happy (good entertainment value).

However, as a greedy SOB, I might even practice CC!

[Brock Windsor]

Feel no remorse about getting some of the 'charity' take from a casino. The chairty only gets a small portion and the cause is much better served if you win as much as you can and then donate a portion to charity personally. Plus then you get the tax break and save them some administration.
BW

[SystemsTrader]

Originally Posted by bjhack

Downside - a significant portion of the profits go to charity (by law). If you rape the casino, you are raping the charities, some of who I support. (I've worked casinos; if anyone wants to know why & what, let me know)

You should never feel guilty raping a charity casino and here's why. The term charity casino is a misnomer in most cases. Most of these casinos are for profit and they simply make a donation to a charity(s). For instance in my jurisdiction I play a charity casino and they only donate 5% of gross revenue from gaming machines only to charity. So people playing the table games are donating absolutely nothing to charity but think they are. The casinos are taking advantage of the players at their tables, thinking they are playing for charity. I suggest you call your local charity casino and ask them what their policies are, you might be surprised how little they are helping out the poor and actually taking advantage of them.

[actuary]

SystemsTrader is absolutely right.

From the Thousand Islands Charity Casino website: "As hot communities, the township and Gananoque will split five per cent of the revenue from the slot machines. This money is expected to be earmarked toward improving the standard of living in both the Township of Leeds and Thousand Islands and Gananoque."

[bjhack]

In my jurisdiction (Alberta), charities receive at least 25% and as much as 50% of the total win at table games depending on location. The casino operators receive a 15% commision on net slot machine sales. Charities get 15%, and the balance (after the Commissions expenses) goes to the Alberta Lottery Fund which essentially a charitable organization.

In Alberta, the only people other than dealers (and in certain situations the cash cage advisor) that touch cash or chips are the charity volunteers that are working the casino. Positions manned by volunteers of the charity include

a) general manager(s);
b) banker;
c) cashier;
d) chip runner;
e) count room supervisor; and
f) count room staff.

Casinos are considered a very lucrative fund raising opportunity by charities/community groups/etc.