Deepak Chopra

[FLASH1296]

L.O.L.
Deepak Chopra
R.O.T.F.L.M.A.O.
What a masterful con artist !

Here is an exercise for you:

Take some text of (just about any drivel that comes out of his mouth)
and delete all the words that are "fuzzy" or meaningless or purely subjective.
e.g. spirit, energy, existence, etc. and see what you are left with.

Nothing with a remaining shred of meaning.

His [b*llsh*t] is just repackaged crapola for the 'new age' where people
will accept almost any fuzzy nonsense, especially in the U.S.A. where people
consult astrologers, go to chiropractors and purchase homeopathic remedies.

[Katweezel]

Originally Posted by FLASH1296

L.O.L.
Deepak Chopra
R.O.T.F.L.M.A.O.
What a masterful con artist !

Here is an exercise for you:

Take some text of (just about any drivel that comes out of his mouth)
and delete all the words that are "fuzzy" or meaningless or purely subjective.
e.g. spirit, energy, existence, etc. and see what you are left with.

Nothing with a remaining shred of meaning.

His [b*llsh*t] is just repackaged crapola for the 'new age' where people
will accept almost any fuzzy nonsense, especially in the U.S.A. where people
consult astrologers, go to chiropractors and purchase homeopathic remedies.

Hey Alfred E Flash, Let me guess. You once lived in Boston when Deepak was a doctor and he botched an operation on your... errr, am I getting warm?
Boy, you even wipe alternative medicine! Four months ago, I developed a rash that spread; like an irritating itch in my crotch area. No amount of creams, balms, potions, gells or advice from the pharmacy helped. Then, blessed relief arrived in the form of 'Bush Flower Essences'. My rash mysteriousy vanished in just one week. No more jock itch. Now if I listened to you, I'd still be furiously scratching my balls...So, in my mind, your judgement could be...flawed in other areas as well, such as Chopra.
PS You are not, by any chance, a Transcendental Meditator like he, are you?

[zengrifter]

Deepak rocks! Katweezel is on to something. zg

Zengrifter on Luck -

(excerpted from ZGI page-31-33)

Many times you’ve told me about your ‘New Age’ philosophy. Are there any ways in which
these beliefs have helped you at the blackjack tables?

Well, I once went through a phase where I only played blackjack at pre-determined times
throughout the day that had been calculated by a nationally ranked astrologer, but my results were
inconclusive.

Seriously though my beliefs, which I occasionally use as cover, it never impairs the accuracy of my
counting or bet sizing. I do, however, embrace a Buddhist-like paradigm of ‘universal mind’ by
recognizing that all manifestation is consciousness. I prefer to call it ‘higher consciousness’ or
‘quantum reality’ and my leanings toward a more Eastern philosophical awareness stem from over
300 LSD trips, and from studies I’ve undertaken for over 30 years including Zen, Taoism and the
teachings of the Ruchira Avatar Adi Da Samraj, Alan Watts, J. Krishnamurti and Sri Poonjaji,
among others.

Beyond the intuition factor discussed earlier, we get into some heady stuff that re-acquaints us with
the gamblers’ penchant for the so-called ‘superstitious.’

Some readers who have studied quantum-physics will recall the hypothesis of “Dr. Schrödinger’s
Cat.” Schrödinger posited that a cat placed into an electrically wired black box which, in turn, was
randomly electrified - only sometimes with enough juice to kill the cat, with the random charges
unknown to the observing experimenter - would result in neither a dead nor a living cat until the
box is opened and the animal’s state observed.

Along similar lines, the next card dealt from the shoe is not pre-determined, at least not in
‘quantum-reality.’ Thus a gambler’s beliefs may very well indeed affect his results.

I once employed my friend and best-selling ‘higher-consciousness’ author Marilyn Ferguson (The
Aquarian Conspiracy, Brain-Mind Bulletin) to channel the late Kenny Uston.

Marilyn channels many “gone-yonders,” as she refers to them, including Joseph Kennedy, John
Rockefeller, Buckminster Fuller, Timothy Leary, and even ‘Jesus of Nazareth,’ whom she
endearingly calls “the J of N.” Her son is a semi-pro poker player, so at his urgings she has even
channeled the late poker legend Johnny Moss.

During the channeling session, Kenny stated that since the time of his “last incarnation,” he has
become “increasingly convinced” of the “connection between state and luck.” Such connection
between ‘state’ and ‘luck’ has been suggested by many mystical and scientific types, alike. This
suggests that a gambler may actually be able to ‘invoke’ a ‘lucky-state’ through meditation, prayer,
self-hypnosis or even neuro-linguistic-programming, perhaps. I don’t know, but I’ll ask my friend
Tony Robbins the next time I see him.

Do you have any concrete results that would justify these concepts?

My results are totally inconclusive, statistically speaking, although chanting Buddhist good-luck
mantras at the blackjack table is certainly good for cover! One of my biggest wins was at the old
Reserve in Henderson while loudly chanting ‘Nam-Myo-Ho-Renge-Kyo.’ Afterwards, a teammate
stepped within earshot of the pit-critters who had been in attendance and overheard them
discussing, “What do you think he was chanting?” to which the other replied, “He was probably
putting a curse on us.”

Does this ‘quantum-reality’ stuff bother your teammates?

A few years ago I was playing in Reno, and there were five of us having a team meeting and I
suggested that perhaps we should all try playing sessions timed according to our daily bio-rhythms
and/or astrological charts. They all got angry and told me to “stop scaring” them! After a bathroom
break I returned to the meeting and challenged them: “Is there anyone here that is totally without
superstition?” In the next moment, one pulled out his rabbit-foot key chain, another produced his
lucky coin, a third had just splashed on his lucky aftershave. A fourth teammate showed his rosary
beads.

As it turned out, I was the only one in the group who wasn’t carrying a ‘talisman’ into play that
night.

Do you really believe in this ‘cosmic consciousness’ stuff?

Oh yes! Fundamentally, the seemingly ‘separate’ and ‘external’ universe is a holographic illusion,
not truly composed of inanimate rocks and matter, but is rather a ‘paradigmatic-realm’ of
unbounded mind and consciousness wherein all things and events are interconnected in infinite
possibility through the eternal here-and-now via the engine of third-dimensional creation: one’s
own cerebral cortex!

By the way, I’ve considered using an expert with a dousing rod to walk the aisles of the BJ pit to
select my table - a potentially great cover ploy... and it just might work!

You are one strange dude, Zengrifter!

Yes, I know, everyone tells me that.

xxx

[Katweezel]

Do you really believe in this ‘cosmic consciousness’ stuff? (Q to zg)

zg: Oh yes! Fundamentally, the seemingly ‘separate’ and ‘external’ universe is a holographic illusion, not truly composed of inanimate rocks and matter, but is rather a ‘paradigmatic-realm’ of unbounded mind and consciousness wherein all things and events are interconnected in infinite possibility through the eternal here-and-now via the engine of third-dimensional creation: one’s
own cerebral cortex!
By the way, I’ve considered using an expert with a dousing rod to walk the aisles of the BJ pit to select my table - a potentially great cover ploy... and it just might work!

You are one strange dude, Zengrifter!

Yes, I know, everyone tells me that. (end)

zg, That was quite a long involved piece that supports why Deepak rocks! It was great to read a contribution about the energy thing; a nice change from groin-scratching and gambler's phallusy. But let's face it; it was long-winded and contained some frankly weird and bizarre stuff; which is why I loved it. You sure ain't goin in no-one else's box!

It was the appropriate place at the appropriate time for your post as there has already been some bizarre and nutty stuff going on down here. My credibility was lopped, but it wasn't very big in the first place so I quickly grew another one.

There was another quantum contributor here but he said he has taken vows of silence, even though no-one was ever going to ask him about his time machine or whatever his thingamabob is he's working on.

About your cerebral cortex; Deepak tells us that we all know what the human brain looks like and where it's situated. But what of the mind? He says the human mind is in every cell of the body!

You turn up with your cosmic consciousness stuff, which makes three of us on the same page so far here; you, me and Deepers. That's only a small gang of three. But evolution rules, so that must surely expand, you'd think.

I got into trouble for trying to demonstrate that the gulf between science and mysticism is illusionary. I attempted to illustrate with voodoo examples that everything IS connected; including casino games of chance. (That includes 'independent events.') In fact, this new/ancient way of looking at the universe would turn lots of math-gambling sacred cows like that one upside down.

With ever-increasing pressure on the card counter, he/she is going to need some new additions to their box of tricks. Deepers and other weirdos may well be pointing the way...

[Katweezel]

Originally Posted by standard toaster

the quantum physics energy thing im working on is classified information i cant reveal to anyone until my work is complete... but you wouldent be interested in that stuff anyway... it has scientific and mathmatical reasoning. With all your doubt in all proven i would have though you would understand the betting strategy i made viewable in your "keep this one quiet thread."

I still have questions about your ball itching phenomenon as it is a good break from my quantum physics energy capsulating diode math thingamagig... I noticed you were the one who made a point to go to the doctor and get cream for the itch.. im assuming you rubbed that on? While the bush oil was your wifes doing and she rubbed it on could that have simply taken your mind off of the itch and onto your 28 year old wife? (why the age matters i have no clue... my gf is 21 does this cout for anything?) Also a little ap advice here if it feels so good for her to apply the liquid and rub your balls it may be in your best intrest to pretend its still itchy while you do this i will invest in some "bush flower essence" stock and make a killing.

also if jock itch cream does not help id suggest a test... you know many forms of std come and go without warning it may have simply been the wrong treatment! although the voodoo flower may have cured it

sorry to seem like a prick this is just to good to pass up

Hey toast, I respect your vows of silence, but you already seem to have broken one by letting the cat out of the bag here with:...'quantum physics energy capsulating diode math...thing'. Now I will double down bet that nobody else here except you knows what on earth one of them is. But the enemy out there now know what you are up to, if they know what one of them is, let alone what it is supposed to do. Is it voodoo?

From science, you reverted straight back to...jock itch. It's history mate! Thanks to BFE, thank god for voodoo! Now where would we be without voodoo? Who would predict the weather? Stock market? Nags? Football games? Voodoo is a prime player in society.

Now this surely won't break any more of your vows...What is your considered opinion on the main thrust of this thread?: The universe is one vast energy field where all is connected within that same energy field.

[Katweezel]

zg, This thread began on the voodoo board when I began with Deepak Chopra's teachings about the Universe. Over there, discussion quickly degenerated into jock itch, then mathmeticians talking about Gamblers' Fallacy. Then you turned up with some voodoo stuff among other topics. Shortly after that, the thread was split and this split piece begins over here with Alfred E Flash's Deepak diatribe, which doesn't make a lot of sense, as the original context is missing.

If the context original was maybe duplicated here and placed ahead of the Flash post, that may help.

[FLASH1296]

When it comes to hucksters like Chopra, context is never relevant since their "one-size-fits-all"
so-called 'new-age' spiritual (read 'fuzzy') claptrap is self-replicating, ubiquitous, obnoxious, and universally obfuscating.

Deepak is a self-aggrandizing oportunist who is a skilled obscurantist.
I suggest learning to think on your own; a fine and superior idea.

[Katweezel]

Originally Posted by FLASH1296

When it comes to hucksters like Chopra, context is never relevant since their "one-size-fits-all"
so-called 'new-age' spiritual (read 'fuzzy') claptrap is self-replicating, ubiquitous, obnoxious, and universally obfuscating.

Deepak is a self-aggrandizing oportunist who is a skilled obscurantist.
I suggest learning to think on your own; a fine and superior idea.

Hey Flash, Is Deepak the only 'New Ager' you are fed up with? How about Anthony Robbins, Wayne Dyer, Joe Vitale, and Randy Gage? Do they also itch your scratch? These guys (and plenty of other 'New Agers') may have some innovative ideas that could help you in some way, if you had an open mind enough to inquire. As for Deepak, well now, he is a leader. I'm amazed that for one so aware of Deepak's ideas and work, none of it stuck on you...
I take it you won't be sending him a christmas card this year.