Bush shoe attack

[creeping panther]

Well, it seems Bush while in Iraq to take credit for his policy of murder and mayhem, was attacked by a pair of flying shoes launced by a Righteously Enraged Iraqi reporter, at a news conference, photo opp.

It apperars this reporter, an Iraqi citizen, has seen enough horrendous suffering instigated by the Bush administration and had just had enough. Enough dead bodies, children, women, men, old, young. Enough infrastructure destroyed by our brave and glorious "Shock And Awe". Enough suffering.

That reporter....now there is a guy with some balls!!

CP

[mdlbj]

That was rad!!!!

[Unshake]

Check out Bush's dodging skills (Video):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uIj0YvDBKE

Possibly a professional dodge ball player once Obama takes office?

[aslan]

Originally Posted by creeping panther

Well, it seems Bush while in Iraq to take credit for his policy of murder and mayhem, was attacked by a pair of flying shoes launced by a Righteously Enraged Iraqi reporter, at a news conference, photo opp.

It apperars this reporter, an Iraqi citizen, has seen enough horrendous suffering instigated by the Bush administration and had just had enough. Enough dead bodies, children, women, men, old, young. Enough infrastructure destroyed by our brave and glorious "Shock And Awe". Enough suffering.

That reporter....now there is a guy with some balls!!

CP

If you agree with CP's POV you might see him as gutsy. Still, this reporter's cause would better be served by writing a story for his paper or other publisher. It is through exchange of ideas that progress is achieved and world thought evolves.

If you don't agree with CP's POV you might see this guy as a hothead. He got his 15 minutes of fame, and will have something to talk about with his radical friends, how he threw his shoes at the President of the greatest country on earth.

Either way, nothing was accomplished. Throwing shoes does nothing to promote world peace.

Bush summed it up saying that in a democracy people can make such expressions. I mignt add, for the first time in the region, such as action will not result in a firing squad.

[creeping panther]

Originally Posted by aslan

If you agree with CP's POV you might see him as gutsy. Still, this reporter's cause would better be served by writing a story for his paper or other publisher. It is through exchange of ideas that progress is achieved and world thought evolves.

If you don't agree with CP's POV you might see this guy as a hothead. He got his 15 minutes of fame, and will have something to talk about with his radical friends, how he threw his shoes at the President of the greatest country on earth.

Either way, nothing was accomplished. Throwing shoes does nothing to promote world peace.

Bush summed it up saying that in a democracy people can make such expressions. I mignt add, for the first time in the region, such as action will not result in a firing squad.

Aslan,

You are a sad apologist for the Bush butchery and trampling of the Constituition.

What Bush has done to Iraq is the same as Grant and Hayes did to my Cheyenne ancestors, and it was an outrage then as it is an outrage today.

Are you sure we are the "Greatest Country on Earth"? Such a worn out cliche'.

You say nothing was accomplished, I disagree. Bush was denied his propaganda platform, and the true feelings of the Iraqis was displayed.

CP

[aslan]

Originally Posted by creeping panther

Aslan,

You are a sad apologist for the Bush butchery and trampling of the Constituition.

What Bush has done to Iraq is the same as Grant and Hayes did to my Cheyenne ancestors, and it was an outrage then as it is an outrage today.

Are you sure we are the "Greatest Country on Earth"? Such a worn out cliche'.

You say nothing was accomplished, I disagree. Bush was denied his propaganda platform, and the true feelings of the Iraqis was displayed.

CP

Apologist? Well, if you insist...

How many of your Cheyenne ancestors agreed with the US? None I would imagine. There are millions of Iraqis, however, who despite suffering great losses are glad to be free of Sadaam and happy to be a free nation at last. Millions are grateful to the US and do not blame it for their misfortune. They are focused on the chance they have for a new life, a new beginning free of oppression.

True feelings of the Iraqis? Please! Check the films again. You won't see a smidgeon of support for the shoe tosser. The media in general were clearly not rejoicng at the outburst. They don't like to be viewed as nation of radicals who applaud 911 by shooting guns in the air, or animals who decapitate captured victims. The US treatment of captives at Gitmo is far more civilzed than the enemy deserves.

Progaganda platform? All he did was change it from a civilized gathering to a reminder that there is still a lot of work to be done if Iraq ever hopes to become a functionng democracy. The likes of him interferes with the hopes and aspirations of the Iraqi people to become autonomous and free. Even if I ceded the past wrong, which do not, there is no excuse for the continued attempt of the remnants of the Sadaam regime to try to thwart the people's struggle to become free.

Quit reliving the past and trying to make everything that happens today fit into that ancient mold. Times have changed and understanding has increased. This is not the same US anymore than you are the same person now that you were when you were 16. I have no doubt that the US would act differently today than it did back then given the same circumstances. I still believe this is the greatest nation on earth, and I still believe that the greatest challenge today is between free peoples and nations who wish to control, dominate and enslave. That saying of our greatness is neither a trite phrase nor worn out. If it shows wear, it is only because so many have subcribed to it, believed in it, even given up their lives for it. We have to guard against our most cherished beliefs becoming trite and not heartfelt. You still believe in the greatness of the Cheyenne nation, despite its flaws, and I still believe in the United States of America despite its flaws. Too bad you can't see it. Too bad you have been taken in by those who would destroy this great nation and all that it stands for.

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by aslan

There are millions of Iraqis, however, who despite suffering great losses are glad to be free of Sadaam and happy to be a free nation at last. Millions are grateful to the US and do not blame it for their misfortune.

Thats a laugh! zg

[aslan]

Originally Posted by zengrifter

Thats a laugh! zg

No, it's a fact.

[creeping panther]

Originally Posted by aslan

No, it's a fact.

I actually find your thinking very silly and starry eyed. I hope you find joy in your delusions.

CP

[aslan]

Originally Posted by creeping panther

I actually find your thinking very silly and starry eyed. I hope you find joy in your delusions.

CP

Hurling insults gains no ground in an exchange of ideas. Your bitterness toward the United States government, and anyone who supports it, does not appear to rooted in the Iraqi war. What is your real problem with the United States? Is it the plight of the Cheyenne people, for which you cannot forgive it, even though that occurred more than a hundred years ago and by people who are no longer alive? Or is it something that has happened to you in your own lifetime? We clearly cannot exchange ideas if your words are coming from feelings of bitterness and not the logic of your mind. If you can see no gray areas in the US's war in Iraq, a war which I do not believe should have been fought, if you cannot see that the men and women who waged this war believed themselves to be honorable in their actions in confronting a ruthless tyrant who thumbed his nose at UN sanctions and who posed a threat to neigboring nations and ultimately to peace in the world, if you cannot see any good in the liberation of the Iraqi people and the beginning of self-rule, then you are hopelessly a victim of your own hatred that seeks to see only the worst in your perceived enemy, in this case, the US government. I truly feel sorry for you. There is no peace for a man of ill will.