More Bush Shoe Attacks!

[zengrifter]

[Brutus]

a bunch on you tube

here's some that I've seen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTIDX...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0BBM...eature=related

slow motion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovoTg...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q1G7...eature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fme-ZLqL0sg

[zengrifter]

Muntadhar al-Zaidi is a HERO! zg

The shoes we longed for
The young journalist who took on Bush has become a unifying Iraqi symbol, a national hero

Sami Ramadani
The Guardian, Wednesday 17 December 2008

Within a few unlikely seconds, a pair of size 10 shoes have become the most destructive weapon the people of Iraq have managed to throw at the occupying powers, after nearly six years of occupation and formidable resistance. One Iraqi writer called the shoes, hurled by a journalist at George Bush, "Iraq's weapon of comprehensive destruction".

While the uprisings of Falluja, Najaf, Basra and Baghdad against the occupation will always remain as landmarks of a people resisting occupation, these incredible seconds have united Iraqis in the most dramatic fashion.

Contrary to most media coverage, the 28-year-old TV reporter Muntadhar al-Zaidi made history not by merely throwing a pair of shoes, the highest expression of insult in Iraqi culture, at the US president, but by what he said while doing so and as he was smothered by US and Iraqi security men. He groaned as they dragged him out of the press conference. They succeeded in silencing him - and according to his brother he was beaten in custody - but he had already said enough to shake the occupation and Nouri al-Maliki's Green Zone regime to their foundations.

Strip the words away, and his and the Iraqi people's cry of deep pain, anger and defiance would amount to no more than a shoe-throwing insult. But the words were heard. "This is the farewell kiss, you dog," he shouted as he threw the first shoe. The crucial line followed the second shoe: "This is from the widows, the orphans and those who were killed in Iraq." Once those words were heard, the impact of a pair of shoes became electrifying. A young journalist has put aside the demands of his profession, preferring to act as the loudest cry of his long-suffering people. If one considers the torture and killings in Iraqi and US jails that Muntadhar often mentioned in his reports for al-Baghdadia satellite TV station, he was certainly aware he risked being badly hurt.

MORE- http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...ournalist-hero

[Brutus]

"This is from the widows, the orphans and those who were killed in Iraq."

I grant that this whole ordeal has been terrble. but, were the Iraqi's better off under Saddam? not hardly.

an attack like this would have been met with much more than a simple beating under the old rule. this behavior wouldnt even be possible except for a us occupation. if the iranians/turks are to invade iraq after we leave, will they be any kinder? hell no.

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by Brutus

I grant that this whole ordeal has been terrble. but, were the Iraqi's better off under Saddam? not hardly.

Yes, much better. zg

[aslan]

Originally Posted by zengrifter

Yes, much better. zg

Maybe some were if they belonged to the right sect and sex.

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by aslan

Maybe some were if they belonged to the right sect and sex.

Overall MOST were better off. His 'brutal' regime was nothing compared
to the slaughter of a million+ Iraqis in an illegal and genocidal invasion. zg

[aslan]

Originally Posted by zengrifter

Overall MOST were better off. His 'brutal' regime was nothing compared
to the slaughter of a million+ Iraqis in an illegal and genocidal invasion. zg

Well, I wasn't for it, but I'm not sure it was illegal, and I don't know about the numbers you throw out. Iraq did attack American aircraft repeatedly and it did ignore UN sanctions repeatedly.

As the Clinton Administration pointed out:

1. "We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the
stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass
destruction.” “The chemical weapons Saddam has used and the biological weapons we know he has tested pay no attention to borders and nationalities.” Madeleine Albright, February 1, 1998

2. “If diplomacy runs out, we have reserved the right to use force and if we do so it will be substantial.” Madeleine Albright, February 1, 1998


3. “No one has done what Saddam Hussein has done, or is thinking of doing. He is producing weapons of mass destruction, and he is qualitatively and quantitatively different from other dictators.” Madeleine Albright, February 18, 1998


4. “What we are doing is so that you all can sleep at night. I am very proud of what we are doing. We are the greatest nation in the world and what we are doing is being the indispensable nation, willing to make the world safe for our children and grandchildren, and for nations who follow the rules.” Madeleine Albright, February 18, 1998


5. “Saddam (Hussein) must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.” Bill Clinton, December 16, 1998


6. “If Saddam can cripple the weapons inspections sytem and get away with it, he would conclude the international community, led by the United States, has simply lost its will. He would surmise that he has free rein to rebuild his arsenal of destruction.” Bill Clinton, December 16, 1998


7. “Earlier today I ordered America’s armed forces to strike
military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq’s nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors. While other countires also had weapons of mass desctuction, Hussein is in a different category because he has used such weapons
against his own people and against his neighbors. Bill Clinton, December 16, 1998


8. “Along with Prime minister (Tony)Blair of Great Britain, I made it equally clear that if Saddam failed to cooperate fully we would be prepared to act without delay, diplomacy or warning.” Bill Clinton, December 16, 1998


9. “The best way to end that threat once and for all is with a new Iraqi goverment — a government ready to live in peace with its neighbors, a government that respects the rights of its people.” Bill Clinton, December 16, 1998


10. “But once more, the United States has proven that although we are never eager to use force, when we must act in America’s vital interests, we will do so.” Bill Clinton, December 16, 1998

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by aslan

Well, I wasn't for it, but I'm not sure it was illegal, and I don't know about the numbers you throw out. Iraq did attack American aircraft repeatedly and it did ignore UN sanctions repeatedly.

So what? The earlier sanctions ALSO killed a million+ Iraqis. zg

[aslan]

Originally Posted by zengrifter

So what? The earlier sanctions ALSO killed a million+ Iraqis. zg

I can't argue that point. The world has a warped sense of what is just and honorable against an innocent civilian population. I hope it wasn't a million plus.