Which game should yield better results?

[shadroch]

Each game is identical except for two things.
One is a $5 minimum, the other is $25 minimum.
First is H17, second is S17.
You bankroll will allow a 1-10 spread($5-$50) on first game, but only a 1-2 spread($25-$50) on the second.
Wonging is not an option.

[Pelerus]

Is this game DD or a shoe? A 1-2 spread cannot beat a shoe game without wonging.

[sagefr0g]

Originally Posted by shadroch

Each game is identical except for two things.
One is a $5 minimum, the other is $25 minimum.
First is H17, second is S17.
You bankroll will allow a 1-10 spread($5-$50) on first game, but only a 1-2 spread($25-$50) on the second.
Wonging is not an option.

the H17 1-10 spread. the 1-2 s17 is a long term loser.

[standard toaster]

yeah a 1-2 spread is useless your 1-10 is better regardless of game

[EasyRhino]

Why are you even asking? Is this a trick question?

[Kasi]

Originally Posted by shadroch

You bankroll will allow a 1-10 spread($5-$50) on first game, but only a 1-2 spread($25-$50) on the second.
Wonging is not an option.

I don't quite get what you're asking either but I hope when figuring what your roll will allow you are not using that "100 max bet rule" that seems so popular around here.

I'm just taking a shot in the dark since your max is $50 in both cases.

All things being equal, your same $ roll can't "allow" both of these and keep your risk anywhere close to identical.

[shadroch]

I figure my max bet on whatever it is I'll feel comfortable having to lay out
8X of at any moment. Say I have $50 out, get and split 8s, get a 3 and DD on one, pull another 8, and so forth. Twice now, I've suddenly found myself with $500 in play on a single hand and thats more than I want to risk.So it's spread 1-2 on a better game or 1-10 on a weaker game. Because even a 1-4 spread on the $25 game gets me into my upper range with a simple 8-8-8 draw.
Just checking to see if my thinking was correct.

[shadroch]

Originally Posted by EasyRhino

Why are you even asking? Is this a trick question?

There are no trick questions. Just questions by tricksters.

[Kasi]

Originally Posted by shadroch

I figure my max bet on whatever it is I'll feel comfortable having to lay out
8X of at any moment. Say I have $50 out, get and split 8s, get a 3 and DD on one, pull another 8, and so forth. Twice now, I've suddenly found myself with $500 in play on a single hand and thats more than I want to risk.So it's spread 1-2 on a better game or 1-10 on a weaker game. Because even a 1-4 spread on the $25 game gets me into my upper range with a simple 8-8-8 draw.
Just checking to see if my thinking was correct.

I don't see the difference - if your max bet is $50 then when all that split-double stufff might happen you still have the same amount of money out.

So if you are comfortable with 8X of max bet out on any round, what's the difference?

I don't see how it could be more than $400 anyway even if splitting to 4 hands and doubling on each.

So now it's a 1-4 spread on a min $25 game? Just a second ago, I thought it was a 1-2 spread lol?

Or does this mean you consider your spread is really $5-$400 in the first case and $25-$400 in the second case?

I don't know - I guess I have trouble of figuring "max bet" out, whatever that may be, based on a "comfort" level whatever that is.

The point may be is, like you say, if you are going to be "uncomfortable
" spreading to 8X max bet occasionally, (very rarely btw), then choose a different roll or a different comfort level (to me this means risk) to begin with.

In my thinking "spreads" mean a min to max initial bet only. If my spread is $x-$50 in a re-splt to 4 hands with DAS then I already know that will happen occasionally. All that crap is taken into account in avg bet/round stuff just as it is when you double a $5 bet to $10. It's not like your min unit has changed becasue that happened or that your max $50 unit has changed just becasue you have to double a max bet.

But all that stuff is purely from a card-counting point of view. A guy like you who, maybe, relies alot on "comp" value may have a different viewpoint. My limited experience in that is they only rate you on your original initial bet anyway rather than your avg initial bet.

Like a few years back, I played some "All-IN holdem" table game (no longer exists) with a $25 min bet that had an avg initial bet of over 6X my min bet.
All they'd rate me for was a $25 bet even though my avg initial bet exceeded $150. That was another one of those occasions when, after seeing my "BS", I was welcome with open arms lol. Can't tell you how "lucky" they must have thought I was a few hours later lol. Or the grief I got from regular poker players like it was even remotely the same game lol.

[sagefr0g]

the s17 would make about $4.23/hr at 1-3 spread with the $25 unit long term sort of thing according to my cvcx sim. talkin six deck 75%pen.
ROR would go way up comparatively speaking to the 1-10 $5 unit h17 game.