Is getting 86'd worth the experience?

[callipygian]

I always hear about people talk about how this or that place is really sweaty and such. I've never really experienced any real heat - the worst thing that ever happened to me was that a pit boss offered me an unsolicited buffet ticket if I took a break. I got the hint and left. So I'm curious to see what getting a stern back-off or getting banned is like.

I'm essentially unconcerned about things like career longevity and my win rate, and I count mostly as a mathematical experiment more than anything. I do care about not getting trespassed from a whole chain (which may limit my entertainment options as I generally gamble on vacation), but I wouldn't mind if I couldn't gamble in that casino ever again. I'm definitely not up for doing anything ethically nebulous.

I figure the standard way is to find a sweaty casino with a good SD/DD game, be aggressive, ignore all the warning signs, and let nature take its course.

(1) Is the effort worth the experience?

(2) What would be the best way to go about doing this?

(3) Am I being a jerk by burning games if I do this?

P.S. This thread is definitely -themed. If you think this is a really dumb idea don't get all huffy, just at me. My entire motivation is curiosity.

[Dyepaintball12]

(1) Is the effort worth the experience?

No

(2) What would be the best way to go about doing this?

Don't play stupid if you want longevity.

(3) Am I being a jerk by burning games if I do this?

Probably.


Actually now I see that you don't care about longevity, so do whatever you want.

"Ignoring the warning signs" is an awful idea. Just awful.

[moo321]

If you absolutely have to do it, go on vacation, play unrated, spread like a maniac on a single deck game, and get it out of your system. Don't do it rated, and don't do it anywhere near where you live. And don't give them your name at any point.

In fact, you should probably wear a hat and sunglasses, so the photo is useless.

Again, if you absolutely have to do it.

[Automatic Monkey]

Originally Posted by callipygian

I always hear about people talk about how this or that place is really sweaty and such. I've never really experienced any real heat - the worst thing that ever happened to me was that a pit boss offered me an unsolicited buffet ticket if I took a break. I got the hint and left. So I'm curious to see what getting a stern back-off or getting banned is like.

I'm essentially unconcerned about things like career longevity and my win rate, and I count mostly as a mathematical experiment more than anything. I do care about not getting trespassed from a whole chain (which may limit my entertainment options as I generally gamble on vacation), but I wouldn't mind if I couldn't gamble in that casino ever again. I'm definitely not up for doing anything ethically nebulous.

I figure the standard way is to find a sweaty casino with a good SD/DD game, be aggressive, ignore all the warning signs, and let nature take its course.

(1) Is the effort worth the experience?

(2) What would be the best way to go about doing this?

(3) Am I being a jerk by burning games if I do this?

P.S. This thread is definitely -themed. If you think this is a really dumb idea don't get all huffy, just at me. My entire motivation is curiosity.

Play good games, and play with an advantage, and you will get douched out. So many times you'll get sick of it. It's about as interesting an experience as getting thrown out of the playground at McDonald's with your hand down your pants.

But you're not harming other AP's by getting thrown out for spreading, so don't worry.

[EasyRhino]

In my current limited personal statistical sampling of adverse action, I've learned that the reaction that the casino may take to regular run of the mill counting is radically variable. And I have no control over it.

I've been flat bet, backed off from BJ, backed off from all table games, and barred from the casino. And I was pretty much playing the same way each time.

So... don't get caught at a place you want to play. Especially if you want to play rated.

[ccibball50]

I was curious before I ever experienced heat for the first time. It is an experience you think you want to have, however, when it actually happens, you get nervous, or I did, and hope it never happens again.

At a casino I was playing for 20+ hours SD and DD games only with a 4-1 spread, I was skill checked by a pit boss. Luckily I recognized it and began raising my bets at negative counts. I went back and played with no heat about a month later until a the same pit boss came back. He hid behind another table and watched me. Every time I looked up he turned his head. He then came over and wispered something to the dealer. About five minutes later the dealer said to the pit boss yea, your right. The pit boss responded prove it, you have to prove it. I flat bet for about thirty more minutes and used my comp meal and left. I didn't get nervous, but now i get ticked off. I have studied the shift changes now, so I will not go back while he is there. I aslo decided to play less at the casino and rais me minimum bet to make up for the time I can't spend at that casino. Plus I am playing much more poker now.

[callipygian]

Originally Posted by Automatic Monkey

It's about as interesting an experience as getting thrown out of the playground at McDonald's with your hand down your pants.

I TOLD YOU IT WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING!

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[Cherry7Up]

Originally Posted by ccibball50

At a casino I was playing for 20+ hours SD and DD games only with a 4-1 spread, I was skill checked by a pit boss. Luckily I recognized it and began raising my bets at negative counts.

What tipped you off to the initial skill check after this first marathon session?

[chichow]

I wanted to get 86'ed after I had gotten good enough. It was silly as wanting confirmation of my skills. But in hindsight it's not worth it

[bj bob]

Originally Posted by EasyRhino

I've been flat bet, backed off from BJ, backed off from all table games, and barred from the casino. And I was pretty much playing the same way each time.

Now that's a resume that will bring a tear to any mother's eye. Are you two still estranged?