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January 29th, 2009, 03:19 AM
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Customizing CVdata for SF21
The Rules:(Wizardofodds)
1)The game is played with a single/double deck of cards.
2)Dealer hits a soft 17.
3)Player may double after a split.
4)Player may resplit to up to four hands, including aces.
5)Player may hit and double down to split aces.
6)Player may double on any number of cards.
7)Player may take late surrender on any number of cards.
8)Player may surrender half of total bet after doubling.
9)A player hand totaling 20 or less, consisting of six cards or more, except after doubling, automatically wins.
10)A player hand of 21 points, consisting of 5 cards or more, except after doubling, pays 2 to 1 instantly.
11)A player blackjack always wins
12)A player blackjack in diamonds pays 2 to 1, all other blackjacks pay even money.
Step1>Set-up
Step2>Rules
Step3>Pay-off's(Suited AJ spadeordiamond pays 2:1)optional
Step4>CustomRules>A player hand totaling 20 or less, consisting of six cards or more, except after doubling, automatically wins
Step5>A player hand of 21 points, consisting of 5 cards or more, except after doubling, pays 2 to 1 instantly.(Fixed 2:1?)
Question's?
1)How do you tell CVdata to Double on split Ace's?
2)Does Late Sr, need to be checked, if Multi-Sr is already checked?
3)How do you creat a 2:1 pay-out, on the 5 or more card 21?
4)Is there a option to Double on any # of Card's?
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January 29th, 2009, 04:09 AM
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Answer:
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Originally Posted by jack,jackson
The Rules:(Wizardofodds)
1)How do you tell CVdata to Double on split Ace's?
2)Does Late Sr, need to be checked, if Multi-Sr is already checked?
3)How do you creat a 2:1 pay-out, on the 5 or more card 21?
4)Is there a option to Double on any # of Card's?[/B]
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1:It's automatic since you had DAS and RSA checked.
3:Uncheck auto win,put 1.0 in variable.
4:Yes,on Rules screen,Max cards to double down set to 8.
I'll look into the other question when i got time,it's 4 AM here
Good Luck !!!
P.D.
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January 29th, 2009, 01:31 PM
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Just realized
Hi and Thanks, Prince Dragon.
There's no, SuperFun21 Basic strategy included with Michael Shacklefolds strategies. Would this imply, that I need to create my own basic strategy with the index generator first, before I can run a sim??
Anybody?
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January 30th, 2009, 01:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jack,jackson
Hi and Thanks, Prince Dragon.
There's no, SuperFun21 Basic strategy included with Michael Shacklefolds strategies. Would this imply, that I need to create my own basic strategy with the index generator first, before I can run a sim??
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Any time JJ
Answer for Q2:you do not need to check LS if Multi-card is checked,sim result will be the same.
Yes you need to create your own BS with SF21,
Do you have Kat Walker's book on SP21? It has a step by step intro on how to create a BS,it's fairly simple to do.
I think you should run a sim with BS,then create index #'s with IG,after that,you need to create a strategy with your new index #'s base on BS.
Hope this helps
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January 30th, 2009, 10:03 AM
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Any time JJ
Answer for Q2:you do not need to check LS if Multi-card is checked,sim result will be the same.
Yes you need to create your own BS with SF21,
Do you have Kat Walker's book on SP21? It has a step by step intro on how to create a BS,it's fairly simple to do.
I think you should run a sim with BS,then create index #'s with IG,after that,you need to create a strategy with your new index #'s base on BS.
Hope this helps
P.D.
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No, I dont have her book, but might consider it. Not really interested in SP21, since the tens are removed. If I cant figure out how to, create a BS chart, I might go ahead and purchase it. We'll see.
My primary focus, is just to get the BS and sim set-up, for the correct rules!!!
If and when, Ive conquered that task, I'll advance to implementing a count with indice's. First thing first, the correct BS.
Honestly though, I think I bit off, more than I can chew.
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January 30th, 2009, 10:19 AM
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SF21 Basic Strat
Quote:
Originally Posted by jack,jackson
Hi and Thanks, Prince Dragon.
There's no, SuperFun21 Basic strategy included with Michael Shacklefolds strategies. Would this imply, that I need to create my own basic strategy with the index generator first, before I can run a sim??
Anybody?
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I think the basic strat is at this link:
http://wizardofodds.com/superfun21
-Brock
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January 30th, 2009, 10:27 AM
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Thanks Brock, that definetely make's thing's easier.
Do you know if you can customize(manually input) these charts into CVdata or do you have to use excel, then import them to CVdata?
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January 30th, 2009, 10:35 AM
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I haven't used CV Data so don't know myself.
-BW
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January 31st, 2009, 01:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jack,jackson
Do you know if you can customize(manually input) these charts into CVdata or do you have to use excel, then import them to CVdata?
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Yes you can.
In CVDATA,on the playing screen,click Define/Edit Strategy-->Basic Strategy-->Complete BS,then type your Strategy name
But you need to create 4 seperate chart for this game,then assemble them together using Assemble Multi-Playing stragety feature
It's a lots of work,But YOU CAN DO IT !!! 
Good luck.
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February 1st, 2009, 03:48 AM
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Okay Ive input, the 4 Basic strategy charts from the wizards, 2deck,DAS,H17
When I go to attach a strategy for playing, there all right there. 2card,3card,4cardand5card
Chart 5 was the easiest, since theres no Sr, Soft or hard doubling or splitting.
A couple questions about CV: In define playing strategies>Type
Advanced or singe? Should be made single correct?
And under tables> These should be set to 1and2 decks as well, right?
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