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January 31st, 2009, 01:35 PM
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life is short
so this advantage stuff, when it comes down to the idea of beating blackjack with AP play, thing is we are always encouraged to take the long term view, philosophy, perspective where we pin our hopes and dreams on that day that surely might come. lol.
so ok thats fine. stilll it begs the question, what about now, what about a trip or session of play? if one is as much interested or even more so in short term results, is there a different way to play in any respects than the orthodox AP ways that would at the same time raise expectations for the short run and the long run?
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January 31st, 2009, 02:34 PM
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so this advantage stuff, when it comes down to the idea of beating blackjack with AP play, thing is we are always encouraged to take the long term view, philosophy, perspective where we pin our hopes and dreams on that day that surely might come. lol.
so ok thats fine. stilll it begs the question, what about now, what about a trip or session of play? if one is as much interested or even more so in short term results, is there a different way to play in any respects than the orthodox AP ways that would at the same time raise expectations for the short run and the long run?
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You can go read some of Monkey's posts about betting towards an hourly wage, especially if you don't rely on BJ to pay the bills. His advice on that topic is really useful under a thread title of life is short.
Using this method you can definitely increase your short run expectation along with your ROR. Long run, maybe not. To increase both, you need to play stronger and play longer.
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January 31st, 2009, 05:50 PM
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You can go read some of Monkey's posts about betting towards an hourly wage, especially if you don't rely on BJ to pay the bills. His advice on that topic is really useful under a thread title of life is short.
Using this method you can definitely increase your short run expectation along with your ROR. Long run, maybe not. To increase both, you need to play stronger and play longer.
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any links?
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STRENGTH - HONOR - HEART
that's my take on it your mileage may vary.
for senior citizen fuzzy count click link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrTiP4ZIUfI
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January 31st, 2009, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sagefr0g
so this advantage stuff, when it comes down to the idea of beating blackjack with AP play, thing is we are always encouraged to take the long term view, philosophy, perspective where we pin our hopes and dreams on that day that surely might come. lol.
so ok thats fine. stilll it begs the question, what about now, what about a trip or session of play? if one is as much interested or even more so in short term results, is there a different way to play in any respects than the orthodox AP ways that would at the same time raise expectations for the short run and the long run?
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Sure!!! Stand behind a table and wait for a good count and put your whole BR on one hand  I tried this once
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January 31st, 2009, 09:06 PM
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Sure!!! Stand behind a table and wait for a good count and put your whole BR on one hand  I tried this once 
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oh no you didn't? 
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that's my take on it your mileage may vary.
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January 31st, 2009, 09:26 PM
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The highlight of my BJ career...some time ago
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oh no you didn't?  
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Ya, but it was only a whopping 175.00. Some BR huh...
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January 31st, 2009, 09:35 PM
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Ya, but it was only a whopping 175.00. Some BR huh... 
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big enough. did you know what your odds where?
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best regards,
mr fr0g  MMOA honorary predator
STRENGTH - HONOR - HEART
that's my take on it your mileage may vary.
for senior citizen fuzzy count click link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrTiP4ZIUfI
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January 31st, 2009, 11:21 PM
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Sure!!! Stand behind a table and wait for a good count and put your whole BR on one hand  I tried this once 
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Let me guess you were dealt aces, right?
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February 1st, 2009, 03:53 AM
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Let me guess you were dealt aces, right?
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Never fails!!!But the hard part was, I got dealt 2 tens, right on top of them
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February 1st, 2009, 02:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sagefr0g
so this advantage stuff, when it comes down to the idea of beating blackjack with AP play, thing is we are always encouraged to take the long term view, philosophy, perspective where we pin our hopes and dreams on that day that surely might come. lol.
so ok thats fine. stilll it begs the question, what about now, what about a trip or session of play? if one is as much interested or even more so in short term results, is there a different way to play in any respects than the orthodox AP ways that would at the same time raise expectations for the short run and the long run?
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To me the best short term approach is to use the best long term approach. If expected win rate is 0% or 100% on an even money payout bet (sure thing) then short term and long term coincide. If win rate for the same bet is greater than 0% and less than 100% then short term can be viewed as a "partial" sure thing. If short term you win 50% of the time then long term you will expect to break even. If short term win rate is less than 50% then long term you will expect to lose all. If short term win rate is greater than 50% then long term you will expect to continuously grow your bamkroll. It's all about doing the best you can to recognize conditions and make the best decision. That's all that can be done and in that respect you can apply this approach to more than just blackjack since I don't think everything in life boils down to a sure thing. When you're dealing with short term events that are not sure things then anything can happen. It's up to each individual to take whatever short term risk they decide is fit to take but first they need a method to assess risk and making reference to long term is it.
Since this is the Voodoo Forum maybe some voodoo priest or priestess will refute this. I think I remember a system by the immortal Lucky Ned which reduces this question to a simple statement, "Go with guts!" The voodoo ¿advantage? is that it tends to be far simpler than anything else.
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