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February 8th, 2009, 09:02 PM
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How to work out ROR - Help PLease
Hi,
Am looking to up my bets to the next level and would appreciate some help on working out my RoR.
System: Hi-Lo
6 Deck, S17, DAS, EarlySurrender
Penetration: 75%
Bankroll: $10,000
Betting system:
TC -2: Wong Out (or $5)
TC 0: $5
TC 1: $20
TC 2: 2*$50
TC 3: 2*$50
TC 4: 2*$100
TC 5: 2*$100
TC 6+: 2*$150
E.V. $15 per 100 hands
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February 9th, 2009, 12:05 AM
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I assume you mean late surrender. Also assuming you wong out at negative counts i get a win rate of $55 per 100 hands and a risk of ruin of 4.3% with a 10k bankroll.
Source: CVCX simulation software
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February 9th, 2009, 12:22 AM
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Yes, Late surrender - (No surrender allowed on A).
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February 9th, 2009, 02:22 AM
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Guess what, if you can find a dealer cut 1 deck off...the SCORE is over 100
Hope this helps
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February 9th, 2009, 02:45 AM
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SuperSweet! Thanks. (I did have a dealer who cut 1 deck once, but the pit boss stopped him on the next shoe  ).
Are those win/loss percentages accurate for a 75% pen too? I have been working my calcs off 0.5% change in advantage for every 1 change in true count, but the stats above say it is more. Correct?
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February 9th, 2009, 03:04 AM
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I have been working my calcs off 0.5% change in advantage for every 1 change in true count, but the stats above say it is more. Correct?
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That's the POWER of LS
Adv will be around 2%,for 75% pen(because you are spreading 1-40  )
But practically,it will be a bit lower in the real world play,since most likely you will play some hands in the twi-light zone.
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February 9th, 2009, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by celadore
Yes, Late surrender - (No surrender allowed on A).
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Is it late surrender or early surrender against 2-10? If you cannot surrender at all against an ace then it might be early surrender.
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February 9th, 2009, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by celadore
Hi,
Am looking to up my bets to the next level and would appreciate some help on working out my RoR.
System: Hi-Lo
6 Deck, S17, DAS, EarlySurrender
Penetration: 75%
Bankroll: $10,000
Betting system:
TC -2: Wong Out (or $5)
TC 0: $5
TC 1: $20
TC 2: 2*$50
TC 3: 2*$50
TC 4: 2*$100
TC 5: 2*$100
TC 6+: 2*$150
E.V. $15 per 100 hands
Thanks
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Are you able to get away with that spread without drawing any heat?
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February 9th, 2009, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonny
Is it late surrender or early surrender against 2-10? If you cannot surrender at all against an ace then it might be early surrender.
-Sonny-
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Dealer gets one card on deal. You can surrender any two cards against the dealer BEFORE taking a card yourself, except if the dealer is showing an A. I thought this was early surrender, but when I looked up the definitions for early and late surrender, I got confused.
Are there any surrender indices I should be aware of? Am still splitting 8's against a 10 at any count and this doesn't seem right.
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February 10th, 2009, 12:15 AM
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Are you able to get away with that spread without drawing any heat?
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Yes, have already thrown down some pretty heavy cover and convinced pit bosses i'm a degenerate gambler. But since the actual EV is much higher then I was expecting, have decided to reduce max bets to 2*$100 and TC 4+5 to 2*$75. Spread is about 1:27.
Last edited by celadore; February 10th, 2009 at 12:55 AM.
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