blackjack lesson from the pro?

[jetblack3s]

is it worthy? instead of throwing tons of money to the casino, might as well learn from the best in the beginner right? they usually go from 1-5k tho... ouch

[moo321]

No, hell no! You can learn to count cards for $5 in overdue library charges.

[standard toaster]

All you need to know is on this site.
But if you insist ill teach you for 200

[johndoe]

Not worth it.

[ihate17]

Originally Posted by jetblack3s

is it worthy? instead of throwing tons of money to the casino, might as well learn from the best in the beginner right? they usually go from 1-5k tho... ouch

In today's world of scams and in the historical world of gambling scams, you should be asked for the name of the "best."
There are some excellent AP's who charge for lessons but there are probably 10 times as many crooks with false credentials giving lessons and selling fool (the word fool is there for a reason) proof systems.

Finally, learning something and then being able to apply it when things are just not going according to the text in the casino is something that no one can really teach you.

ihate17

[callipygian]

Originally Posted by ihate17

There are some excellent AP's who charge for lessons but there are probably 10 times as many crooks with false credentials

Let me echo that. You're better off spending $50 on books and $50 on some practice software. And then donating $500 to this site for ihate17's valuable advice.

[Mimosine]

Originally Posted by ihate17

Finally, learning something and then being able to apply it when things are just not going according to the text in the casino is something that no one can really teach you.
ihate17

i've been contemplating this actually.... What if I had had someone who 'brought me up.' What if someone actually sat me down to practice and told me to read on my own and then went with me on my first few trips to help analyze play and situations and dealer mistakes and heat and emotions?

I think that would have been an amazing experience - though not one worth paying for. Instead we always come here for after game analysis which has always been quite priceless....

[Bojack1]

Originally Posted by ihate17

In today's world of scams and in the historical world of gambling scams, you should be asked for the name of the "best."
There are some excellent AP's who charge for lessons but there are probably 10 times as many crooks with false credentials giving lessons and selling fool (the word fool is there for a reason) proof systems.

Finally, learning something and then being able to apply it when things are just not going according to the text in the casino is something that no one can really teach you.

ihate17

This was a hot topic a while back and I don't want to stir the pot but, there are 2 sides to this. Let me start by saying you can learn anything you want about counting cards pretty cheap through books and the internet. It seems that would be the method for most that learn. But ihate17 says someting here that one should take note of. Learning from a text will give you the info you need, applying it is something different. I disagree that applying it can't be taught. There are a couple of things that can be learned in the way of practical application. First is, do you have what it takes to pull it off, if yes, than the act of doing it. There are some who will never be comfortable in a casino, regardless how smart they are and how well they know their system. There are others who have natural charisma, but with minds that need coaxing into high effeciency. You can make a great player out of quite a few different kinds of people. It is hard to become a great player on your own. Its not impossible, but just like anything, its easier to push when you have another pushing you. There is a lot more to being a great AP then just counting a few cards. There is gauranteed money out there for the highest level AP's. That does not come from a book. Pro's train pros. At least the higher end ones. If you want to play for recreation don't spend big money on some lessons. It won't be worth it. All you need can be found right here and in just a few books. And be wary of those claiming to be professionals, there are very few out worth more than the cost of a good book. The bottomline is you can learn this stuff cheap and still play a pretty good game. Or at least you may think so. Paying for lessons can be beneficial only in rare cases of people who have the money, possible loftier expectations, and can find a reputable source of teaching.

[moo321]

I MIGHT pay someone $1k to teach me very advanced skills that were not available in print. But probably not.

[jetblack3s]

thank you!!