Originally Posted by callipygian
Wonging may be worthless to you; you should sim this very carefully to make sure.
Wonging will increase your EV, but lower your hand/hr played. If you can make it to another table quickly, hands/hr drops by only a bit, and your win rate goes up. If hands/hr drops by a lot, your win rate actually goes down.
Wonging away from the table completely has its own risks - for example, if you Wong out too early or at a barely negative count, you risk missing the count recovering later in the shoe. However, if you Wong out too late or only at strongly negative counts (with low chances of recovery) then you don't gain much EV.
Wonging isn't for everyone - it's a strategy to be used in certain cases at certain times. Make sure that you're actually getting some benefit from it.
I Wong out at -2. But I stay at the same table, because there's usually no other tables available. Some casinos only have a few tables with hand shuffle, or ASM's, and even though the casinos are not as busy as before, BJ tables are always crowded. So, if the TC goes down after only a few hands, and I'm losing, I skip 2-3 hands, sometimes even more, saying how I am going to wait for things to change. If the TC does not recover after those few hands, it is time for a washroom break, and I wait for a new shoe, at the same table. Rarely, if there happens to be an empty seat at a different table, I'll go there.
In most cases, for me the only other alternative to Wonging out would be to play all, and I don't think that's a very good idea.
How can I properly simulate the above strategy? I assume I'm doing the right thing by trying not to play those negative counts.
Originally Posted by rollem411
If I win multiple hands in a row in negative counts I stick around until I lose at least one, maybe 2, then wong out.
As the saying goes, "I'd rather be lucky than good". Most poker pros I believe have said that.
Ride the win streak even though the percentages are against you until you lose one. I know it goes against the AP rules, but as long as you are winning I'd say it's ok.
That is what I usually do. If I'm winning while the count is going down, I wait for 1 or 2 losing hands, before I Wong out. I am under the impression that it is working better than Wonging out immediately, as soon as the TC reaches -2.