Do any of you guys KNOW the cards?

[daddybo]

This probably should be in the voodoo forum. I'm an AP player and have been for many years. Over time I have discovered something that I can't pin down mathematically. Here goes... don't laugh too hard. Often when I'm playing I know what the next card is before it's dealt. As far as I can tell it comes from seeing a pattern in the previously dealt cards. I can't make it happen at will but when it happens, I know it. And often it happens at least once or twice an outing. Occasionally though, not for many sessions. I know it sounds like BS, but I've done it with my kids many times. Any body else ever had that kind of thing happen? Some of it I can attribute to probability... i.e a 6-5 against Dealer A.. take Insurance because I know the 10 is next (I double down of course) even though its against the index. the ones that have me puzzled are the 5,6,7,As and 8s that I see. -- Any way calculating my action and winnings it works out to 3.75 % over the long haul. The only reason I'm being stupid enough write this is because I just won 27 hands in a row for a total of 28 out of 30 hands. (My game was abruptly ended at that point). Just wanted to throw it out there... its been troubling me for some time. - daddybo

P.S. yes i've done the factorials and permutations. It's not logically possible.

[callipygian]

Originally Posted by daddybo

calculating my action and winnings it works out to 3.75 % over the long haul

Are you sure you're playing to the long run?

Originally Posted by daddybo

I just won 27 hands in a row for a total of 28 out of 30 hands. (My game was abruptly ended at that point).

On a logical level, this has nothing to do with what you first posted. Just because you know the next card doesn't mean you're going to win an overwhelming majority of hands. For example, if you're dealt T9 and the dealer TT and the next card is a 6, it doesn't matter what you do. Stiff vs. dealer 10 is the most common of scenarios, and often, it doesn't matter what you do.

Having perfect knowledge of the next card is very different from winning consistently or knowing when you're going to win.

If you believe you can win consistently or know when you're going to win, your best bet is to simply push all-in when you think you're going to win, and min bet when you think you're going to lose. You should become a millionaire shortly - correctly doubling your bets during your 27-hand winning streak would have turned you from a $10 bettor into a billionaire ($1.34 billion). An hour at the casino with this strategy should very quickly tell you whether you're a good predictor of when you're going to win.

If you believe you can know the next card, you should keep rigorous statistics on every prediction that you make. Remember, you should guess correctly about 1/3 of the time with tens, so simply guess ten or other and keep track of 500 or so hands. If you've guessed right more than half of the time, there's a good chance you're psychic.

[bj bob]

Originally Posted by callipygian

If you've guessed right more than half of the time, there's a good chance you're psychic.

He already knew that, Calli.

[daddybo]

Originally Posted by callipygian

Are you sure you're playing to the long run?



On a logical level, this has nothing to do with what you first posted. Just because you know the next card doesn't mean you're going to win an overwhelming majority of hands. For example, if you're dealt T9 and the dealer TT and the next card is a 6, it doesn't matter what you do. Stiff vs. dealer 10 is the most common of scenarios, and often, it doesn't matter what you do.

I well understand that. That's why you can have terrible losing streaks, no matter the count etc.. because the next card(s) aren't going to help a bit. Been there and done that. To clarify... 99 percent of the time I don't play on what I think I know.. for lots of obvious reasons. I usually just stick to the strategy. But sometimes it's hard to resist and I do it for the sake of the experiment, if it's not a play that'll get me backed off! (Like doubling an 8-6 against a D-6 because I think know the next one is a 7.) I don't claim to know every card.. just these seemingly random opportunities that pop up.

FYI: on the 27 hand streak... the deck was mostly negative.. it was just luck. Something like a .000000014% Chance (I think I got the zeros right)

It's just a little weird when it happens and I was just curious if any body else ever heard of it happening.

[shadroch]

I have a great system to raise the chances that my next card will be an Ace. All I have to do is double down on a two card eleven.
Sadly, I've yet to figure out how to put this to my advantage.

[callipygian]

Originally Posted by daddybo

I usually just stick to the strategy. But sometimes it's hard to resist and I do it for the sake of the experiment, if it's not a play that'll get me backed off! (Like doubling an 8-6 against a D-6 because I think know the next one is a 7.) I don't claim to know every card.. just these seemingly random opportunities that pop up.

How is this different from playing a hunch?

[daddybo]

LOL Shad... I know that one too. Actually on the streak, I had an 8-3. didn't double. drew the Ace... then the 9..that's when the dealer started yelling that I was cheating!

Calli.... I'm not sure it's different than a hunch. It's just correct most of the time. A lot of time it happens when I call another players card... I usually don't even mention the 10 values.. mainly because, like you said, it's almost 1/3 chance anyway.

[KOLAN]

Originally Posted by daddybo

This probably should be in the voodoo forum. I'm an AP player and have been for many years. Over time I have discovered something that I can't pin down mathematically. Here goes... don't laugh too hard. Often when I'm playing I know what the next card is before it's dealt. As far as I can tell it comes from seeing a pattern in the previously dealt cards. I can't make it happen at will but when it happens, I know it. And often it happens at least once or twice an outing. Occasionally though, not for many sessions. I know it sounds like BS, but I've done it with my kids many times. Any body else ever had that kind of thing happen? Some of it I can attribute to probability... i.e a 6-5 against Dealer A.. take Insurance because I know the 10 is next (I double down of course) even though its against the index. the ones that have me puzzled are the 5,6,7,As and 8s that I see. -- Any way calculating my action and winnings it works out to 3.75 % over the long haul. The only reason I'm being stupid enough write this is because I just won 27 hands in a row for a total of 28 out of 30 hands. (My game was abruptly ended at that point). Just wanted to throw it out there... its been troubling me for some time. - daddybo

P.S. yes i've done the factorials and permutations. It's not logically possible.

for you best strategy is in a book blackjack revolution from Frank scoblite
and beting strategy
1 win bet 2 lost bet 1
2win bet3 lost bet1
3win bet4 lost bet1
if you win again 27 times yours profit .you can count isy )))))))))))

[daddybo]

Originally Posted by callipygian

Having perfect knowledge of the next card is very different from winning consistently or knowing when you're going to win.

Calli... Actually you may be on to something. It may be more knowing or having a hunch when winning is going to occur and by virtue of the fact I know what cards I need I "quess" the next card correctly. Like I said before it seems to be associated with certain patterns the cards create. I really think is some form of subconscious math. (not much of a believer in the psychic thing or luck either for that matter)

[Blue Efficacy]

I know what the OP refers to, and I have played the same way. The brain is capable of more than you can imagine. Often Ive seen patterns reassert themselves in later shoes.

Don't be so quick to write this off as voodoo, although in my experience it's practical applications are limited. I think it's one of those things you can never learn, you either have it or you don't.