BJMath Expected value charts

[1357111317]

I was just wondering if anyone downloaded those BJmath EV charts for each hand before it went down. If anyone has a copy of those would they like to send me a copy of them?

[FLASH1296]

1357111317,

i do not know what charts you are referring to, but there are charts in BJ texts.

Can you describe precisely what the charts show ?

Thery sound like the ones in Blackjack Attack, 3rd ed.

[1357111317]

They are probably like the ones in blackjack attack. The BJmath ones show every 3 card combination and and expected value of each possible play, Hit, Stand, Double, split and I am not sure about surrender although it wouldnt matter since surrender is always -.5.

[Kasi]

Originally Posted by 1357111317

They are probably like the ones in blackjack attack. The BJmath ones show every 3 card combination and and expected value of each possible play, Hit, Stand, Double, split and I am not sure about surrender although it wouldnt matter since surrender is always -.5.

They are like Don's tables, except one decimal short lol.

I think there are some small differences in assumptions regarding splits between the 2.

I think there are different assumptions regarding frequencies between the 2 which you'd have to understand to use these tables for ES or LS.

For the most part, they are identical.

I understand Don's tables better lol. It helped alot that he actually explains what he assumed lol.

But here it is, for you or anyone.

OK - I just figured out it's an 800K sheet and exceeds the limits here.

Anyway, is it even OK I publish it anyway. All that copyright stuff? Or not?

If it's OK to publish it, tomorrow I'll zip it or break it up or something to make it work. It has a BS tab too which I can delete to make it fit.

Worst case, use Don's tables. Basically same thing.

[bjcount]

Originally Posted by 1357111317

I was just wondering if anyone downloaded those BJmath EV charts for each hand before it went down. If anyone has a copy of those would they like to send me a copy of them?

which rule set are you looking for, sd,dd, 6d h17 s17?

BJC

[1357111317]

Now i doubt that these would exist but are there EV charts for every hand at different counts and not just off the top?

[Sonny]

Originally Posted by 1357111317

Now i doubt that these would exist but are there EV charts for every hand at different counts and not just off the top?

The charts are for off the top EVs. If you want the EV for every hand vs. every dealer upcard at every count, ask Qfit.

-Sonny-

[bjcount]

Originally Posted by 1357111317

Now i doubt that these would exist but are there EV charts for every hand at different counts and not just off the top?

I haven't seen the type of charts your looking but in CVData you can bring up the report that indicates win rate per hand type. The results would at the very least provide you with some expectation value per hand type. It does not provide splitting/doubling/standing independant results that I can find anywhere.

BJC

[Canceler]

Originally Posted by 1357111317

Now i doubt that these would exist but are there EV charts for every hand at different counts and not just off the top?

The underlying assumption here is that the count is a rock-solid piece of information. It's not. Here are two images that both show a HiLo TC of +2. The difference between the two overall EVs is a full 1.3%.

[QFIT]

Originally Posted by Canceler

The underlying assumption here is that the count is a rock-solid piece of information. It's not. Here are two images that both show a HiLo TC of +2. The difference between the two overall EVs is a full 1.3%.

Which is exactly why I have often said that representative subsets are not useful. And why the CVData index generator provides the data assuming all possible subsets according to their frequencies.