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Old April 2nd, 2009, 08:01 AM
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Let's talk about dealers for a minute here... what the heck. I mentioned about hearing from multiple sources over the last few weeks that dealer tips are down somewhat in the last 6 months (in AC) with the same amount of "action". I ponder this and think along the lines of, "It's a good thing that AC dealers all split their tips evenly or you would have some dealers making NOTHING and others raking it in! Not because of player win/loss though... because of dealer attitude.

It was mentioned in recent posts by others about dealers making erroneous commentary or giving incorrect advice in the "coulda woulda shoulda" department but that has little effect either on their tip situation either. A knowledgeable player should ignore that and not let it bother them. I read something a few years back about Steven Wynn wanting dealers in the Bellagio that have "juice". "What the heck is JUICE?", I was thinking...

Some people were just not meant to be in a job dealing with the public at large and need to be in a job that they deal with as few people as possible! They are not a "people person" as it is called. I see dealers along the way that are enthusiastic, energetic, friendly and lots of other complimentary adjectives--- they have all appearances of truly enjoying their job and what they do for the most part.

Have you ever walked up to a table and the dealer has a permanent scowl on their face that just reads as "I hate my job, I hate this place, I hate you also." They are from there as unpleasant, sneering, bitchy and all those adjectives that are a 180 degrees from the happy peppy perky friendly dealer as it gets... you can't help but say at some point, "Are you okay? Did someone chop up all your relatives with a machete yesterday for you to be in this state of mind?" or words to that effect... which pisses them off WORSE, of course. Tips are down a bit? They're going to STAY down with people like this in place!

For comparison's sake, imagine a waitress walking up and taking your order... she has a look on her face like she would shoot you if she had a gun in her hand. You try to be pleasant, cordial and friendly and you order... "Fine.", she states in a venomous tone after you order off the menu and she stomps off... she comes back later and slam dunks a plate in front of you with it hitting the table hard enough for flying food debris bouncing up off the plate to strike you about the torso and says, "Here's your goddamn food!" and stomps back off again. You are in a state of shock at this point. You think this is just you and wonder if you said anything that set her off but realize this is not the case as she handles the other tables in much the same manner. Would this behavior have any effect on her tip? Would she maybe even have an effect on repeat business?

This comparison is rather drastic and extreme but makes the point. The dealers that I see that are very negative and not at all friendly toward the players seem to be like that ALL THE TIME and it appears to be an inherent personality trait. You can be happier with on of those "fresh off the boat" people that only speak 4 words in english as a dealer than this! I know, I know... now I am being insensitive toward fresh off the boat non-english speaking people just like I am apparently categorized as being insensitive to Native Americans and people from Oklahoma (which is hogwash as I have no disdain or dislike for anyone based on some geographical or ethnic basis). Oh hell... Hogwash?... now I am being insensitive to hogs...oh well.

Some people were meant to be in jobs dealing with the general public and some people were meant to live in a remote area away from other people as much as possible rather than dealing with hundreds of people a day in my opinion. What are your opinions of all this? Does anyone else notice dealers along the way here and there that seem to have the worst possible attitude toward their job imaginable?

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Old April 2nd, 2009, 08:08 AM
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You're right. Dealers have to do more than deal to earn tips.
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Old April 2nd, 2009, 12:49 PM
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What's strange to me is that occassionally you see a "lump" of a dealer at a place where everyone keeps their own tokes. I don't honestly see how these guys make any sort of decent money, since they can't pool tips with the dealers with personalities.

And there can be a difference in management. I believe Harrah's employees are encouraged to act like smurfs. And to be honest, this usually works for the inner ploppy in me, only a few times can it get overbearing.

Also, don't forget, blackjack dealers have the misfortune of dealing with blackjack players, who are some of the bitchiest people in the world.
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Old April 2nd, 2009, 11:06 PM
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In my experience, which is limited, I'd say 1/4 are really nice people. 1/4 are really grumpy people. And the other 50% fall somewhere in between given the day and their mood. I've been to one joint where there is a dealer that has a certain foreign accent that is unmistakable, I've sat down with him 5 or 6 times over the past year, and everytime he has me in stitches, he's a riot. I can lose on a couple shoes and still stay there. He's one of the few dealers I tip. He could be a stand up comedian, it makes the whole trip so much more fun.
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