Lucky Ladies is awful

[SleightOfHand]

Looking at the WoO analysis, this sidebet has a 24.9% and 17.64% HE for the better payout on 2 and 6 deck, respectively. For counters it is beatable, but for noncounters, this game is awful. Why would anyone that doesn't count play this? Is the 1000:1 that appealing? Why not go slots or something?

PS: Eh mebe this should be in the General Forum. Whatever.

[takinfromindians97]

Same reason people play match the dealer or the 3 card poker side game or the 777 side game. You see someone hit it and get a big pay out so you think oooo thats an easy game with a big payout maybe i can win toooo!!!!! Then of course you go ahead and drop a few hundred on it hahaha. I love watching people play the side bets. I have found lucky ladies to be profitable to me in a high count though.

[Finn Dog]

Originally Posted by SleightOfHand

Looking at the WoO analysis, this sidebet has a 24.9% and 17.64% HE for the better payout on 2 and 6 deck, respectively. For counters it is beatable, but for noncounters, this game is awful. Why would anyone that doesn't count play this? Is the 1000:1 that appealing? Why not go slots or something?

PS: Eh mebe this should be in the General Forum. Whatever.

Where do I find the WoO analysis (search results yielded none)?

Best regards,

FD

[Sonny]

Originally Posted by Finn Dog

Where do I find the WoO analysis (search results yielded none)?

It's listed here:

http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack/appendix8.html

-Sonny-

[Pro21]

There is more analysis in Exhibit CAA and he gives the TC to make it a profitable bet if you are counting.

[iCountNTrack]

Originally Posted by SleightOfHand

Looking at the WoO analysis, this sidebet has a 24.9% and 17.64% HE for the better payout on 2 and 6 deck, respectively. For counters it is beatable, but for noncounters, this game is awful. Why would anyone that doesn't count play this? Is the 1000:1 that appealing? Why not go slots or something?

PS: Eh mebe this should be in the General Forum. Whatever.

Even with counting you will need deep penetration and very high TC (hi-lo) i think higher than 8, which is not very common.

[Pro21]

The limits are too low to make this bet worthwhile.

[Mimosine]

You need a TC of roughly 5, not 8. It depends on the paytable, and if you have been keeping track of QoHs.

Last trip to vegas I made a Killing on this sidebet. At one house I hit a few of the tiers 7 times in two shoes, I hit the sidebet over 50% of the time I played it.

at one house, where spreading is almost impossible at my level, i made several units in less than 2 hours.

10% of my winning on my last trip came from this sidebet.

YMMV.

[UncrownedKing]

You need a TC of roughly 5, not 8. It depends on the paytable, and if you have been keeping track of QoHs.

Whats the equivalent Zen count? say 9? Why not just go off of the number of QoH's per deck instead of using counting?

[Finn Dog]

Originally Posted by Mimosine

You need a TC of roughly 5, not 8.

I thought ZG said it was TC +7 for Hi-Lo 6d?