Air France Flight Missing

[daddybo]

My bet is on a catastrophic structural failure.... caused by either an explosive or turbulence. Admittedly, I doubt it was turbulence or weather, although, it is possible. Can't wait to find out who was on board.

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...5501PB20090601

[daddybo]

excerpts From CNN...

pilot observation...

However, both pilots of an Air Comet flight from Lima to Lisbon sent a written report on the bright flash they said they saw to Air France, Airbus and the Spanish civil aviation authority, according to El Mundo newspaper.

"Suddenly, we saw in the distance a strong and intense flash of white light, which followed a descending and vertical trajectory and which broke up in six seconds," the unidentified captain wrote.

AF447 Flight data..

The aircraft's computer system did send about four minutes of automated messages indicating a loss of cabin pressure and an electrical failure, officials have said.

[daddybo]

From the Web..

The sighting by the French freighter Douce France is said to be in the same area off the coast of Senegal where a pilot with Brazil's TAM airline also may have spotted a burning piece of wreckage as he was crossing the Atlantic early on Monday. Air France's flight from Rio de Janeiro to Paris went missing on Monday morning with 228 passengers and crew on board. There was no distress signal received from the plane. The TAM pilot reported having seen 'orange-coloured spots'' that might have been burning debris. The sighting took place at about the same time that Air France Flight 447 vanished from radar."

[daddybo]

here is a link to a radar reconstruction of the weather.. showing the flight path of AF447. These guys were doing exactly as they should have been and they were out of the weather for all practical purposes...

See the link:

http://www.weathergraphics.com/tim/a...7-radarsim.jpg

[daddybo]

I really am curious as to what brought it down. The Airbus is a really good airplane with a good safety record. The weather it encountered shouldn't have caused it to crash at that altitude. I'm somewhat familiar with French engineering and generally it tends to be pretty good... usually easily maintained and straight forward. I'm guessing it's either some small event that cascaded into a catastrophe or something intentional.

[johndoe]

More recent reports I've read indicate that they reduced speed substantially when entering heavy turbulence (thunderstorm) - which is common practice - but went too far and allowed the plane to stall. This is easy at high altitude, and is very difficult to recover with such a big plane.

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by daddybo

I really am curious as to what brought it down. The Airbus is a really good airplane with a good safety record. The weather it encountered shouldn't have caused it to crash at that altitude. I'm somewhat familiar with French engineering and generally it tends to be pretty good... usually easily maintained and straight forward. I'm guessing it's either some small event that cascaded into a catastrophe or something intentional.

Fears of bomb attack on doomed Air France jet
Thursday, 4 June 2009

Unidentified Air France employees react outside the Notre-Dame cathedral, following an ecumenical church service for relatives and families of the passengers of Air France's flight 447 which vanished Monday over the Atlantic ocean, Wednesday June 3, 2009 in Paris. The reason for the crash remains unclear, with fierce thunderstorms, lightning or a catastrophic combination of causes as possible theories.

The Air France plane that went missing over the Atlantic this week was likely to have broken up in mid-air, prompting some speculation that it may have been bombed.

The vast area over which debris has been found suggested there was an explosion while the aircraft was in flight.

Experts said the “wide dispersion of wreckage discovered suggests that the Airbus exploded at high altitude”.

MORE- http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-14327699.html

[zengrifter]

Air France plane: was it a bomb?

An Air France pilot has suggested that a bomb could have been the cause of the crash which led to a plane go missing over the Atlantic this week. However most experts have dismissed the suggestion.

Telegraph.UK | 04 Jun 2009



The Air France plane is likely to have broken up in mid-air, experts have said and the vast area over which debris has been found suggested there was an explosion while the aircraft was in flight.

One anonymous Air France pilot suggested that a bomb could "very well" be the cause of the crash. He said: "One can very well imagine that a bomb caused the aircraft's depressurisation and that the plane took time to break up. It could just as well have been a big bomb that blew up the entire plane, which would explain why the aircraft didn't have time to send an alert signal."

MORE- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...it-a-bomb.html

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by daddybo

Can't wait to find out who was on board.

Key figures in global battle against illegal
arms trade lost in Air France crash

ARGENTINA: Argentine campaigner Pablo Dreyfus and Swiss colleague Ronald Dreyer battled South American arms and drug trafficking
From Andrew McLeod

AMID THE media frenzy and speculation over the disappearance of Air France's ill-fated Flight 447, the loss of two of the world's most prominent figures in the war on the illegal arms trade and international drug trafficking has been virtually overlooked.

Pablo Dreyfus, a 39-year-old Argentine who was travelling with his wife Ana Carolina Rodrigues aboard the doomed flight from Rio de Janeiro to Paris, had worked tirelessly with the Brazilian authorities to stem the flow of arms and ammunition that for years has fuelled the bloody turf wars waged by drug gangs in Rio's sprawling favelas.

Also travelling with Dreyfus on the doomed flight was his friend and colleague Ronald Dreyer, a Swiss diplomat and co-ordinator of the Geneva Declaration on Armed Violence who had worked with UN missions in El Salvador, Mozambique, Azerbaijan, Kosovo and Angola. Both men were consultants at the Small Arms Survey, an independent think tank based at Geneva's Graduate Institute of International Studies. The Survey said on its website that Dryer had helped mobilise the support of more than 100 countries to the cause of disarmament and development.

MORE- http://www.sundayherald.com/internat...512885.0.0.php

[daddybo]

I've been expecting something like that. I was asked the question, "If 447 was an act of sabotage or terrorism; why has no one claimed responsibility.?" My answer... "The guys that have the special skill sets to do these kind of things usually don't want anyone to know.... only whackos draw attention to themselves."

It would be like an AP standing up after a really good night and saying, " Yeah, I'm good! UH HUH"

I wonder why Brazil can't tell the difference between trash and aircraft wreckage?

The pitot tube story is B.S. (if it was that potentially dangerous, why weren't the planes grounded?

The weather wasn't that bad.

12 other aircraft flew the route successfully.

Go figure.

keep it coming ZG.