Six Deck shoes still available in LV?

[krypto]

Hi,

Its been a couple years since I've been to LV, and I was wondering if anyone could tell me if 6-deck shoes (not continuous shuffle) are still available in places like Mandalay Bay and MGM?

Atlantic City only has 8-deck shoes now and they suck. If LV has made the switch to 8-deck, my wife and I won't even go out there again.

Doug

[cpage727]

you can still find 6D most places in vegas

[shadroch]

Originally Posted by krypto

Hi,

Its been a couple years since I've been to LV, and I was wondering if anyone could tell me if 6-deck shoes (not continuous shuffle) are still available in places like Mandalay Bay and MGM?

Atlantic City only has 8-deck shoes now and they suck. If LV has made the switch to 8-deck, my wife and I won't even go out there again.

Doug

Out of curiousity, why do you dispise the eight deck shoes so much, as compared to the six deck?

[krypto]

Originally Posted by shadroch

Out of curiousity, why do you dispise the eight deck shoes so much, as compared to the six deck?

We play only a slightly modified Basic Strategy and with six deck shoes we do very well. We've played thousands at home.

My wife decided she wanted to give AC a try, but I was skeptical of the unfavorable rules common there. What ultimately shocked me however, was just how unfavorable the 8-deck shoes were.

We came back home, and switched to 8-deck, played hundreds of shoes and got wiped out every time. We switched back to six-deck and got back on track. We played the same LV rules on both 8-deck and 6-deck.

What we observed is that as the amount of face cards increased, the dealer won more hands outright, and busted less. With an 8-deck shoe, I can often go an entire shoe without winning a single hand. Not so with a 6-deck.

[mjbballar23]

Originally Posted by krypto

We play only a slightly modified Basic Strategy and with six deck shoes we do very well. We've played thousands at home.

My wife decided she wanted to give AC a try, but I was skeptical of the unfavorable rules common there. What ultimately shocked me however, was just how unfavorable the 8-deck shoes were.

We came back home, and switched to 8-deck, played hundreds of shoes and got wiped out every time. We switched back to six-deck and got back on track. We played the same LV rules on both 8-deck and 6-deck.

What we observed is that as the amount of face cards increased, the dealer won more hands outright, and busted less. With an 8-deck shoe, I can often go an entire shoe without winning a single hand. Not so with a 6-deck.

hmmmm...interesting.

[shadroch]

Originally Posted by mjbballar23

hmmmm...interesting.

You are kind.

[johndoe]

I've never seen an 8D shoe in Vegas. All shoes are 6D.

But you really need to rethink your strategy if you think it matters all that much, as well as reconsider your "modified basic strategy". Given your comments you probably aren't playing with much of an advantage, if any.

[Cherry7Up]

Originally Posted by johndoe

I've never seen an 8D shoe in Vegas. All shoes are 6D.

This was not true as of my last visit in March. The Venetian as well as some others have started using 8 decks. I believe The Venetian (and thus probably also the related Palazo) use only 8 decks. However, most of the MGM and Harrahs properties still offer some 6 deck games.

[21forme]

Originally Posted by shadroch

Out of curiousity, why do you dispise the eight deck shoes so much, as compared to the six deck?

6D shoes go positive much more frequently than 8D shoes.

[mjbballar23]

Originally Posted by shadroch

You are kind.

I've never seen anyone lose every hand of an 8d shoe before, yet alone on a constent basis. Thats some pretty bad luck. If your constently losing every hand of an 8D shoe, the casino is probably cheating. Grosjean talks about how this is possible in his new book