Another Error

[Mr. Magoo]

When Ben deserts his robot building geek friends, he gives them the computer chip they need.

The movie is set to be in modern times, but the component is a through-hole device. It has leads on it that are to either be inserted into a socket or into the holes of a circuit board and soldered. This is a 1970s/1980s component. Any cutting edge designer in the 1990s/2000s would be using a surface mount part.

Also, the part is not protected from electro-static discharge and he hands the part to his buddy outside in cold weather where static electricity is amplified. This would ensure that the component would be ruined.

[Katweezel]

Originally Posted by Mr. Magoo

When Ben deserts his robot building geek friends, he gives them the computer chip they need.

The movie is set to be in modern times, but the component is a through-hole device. It has leads on it that are to either be inserted into a socket or into the holes of a circuit board and soldered. This is a 1970s/1980s component. Any cutting edge designer in the 1990s/2000s would be using a surface mount part.

Also, the part is not protected from electro-static discharge and he hands the part to his buddy outside in cold weather where static electricity is amplified. This would ensure that the component would be ruined.

Gee you have A1 eyesight Magoo. Thanks for giving us the lowdown here. Hollywood should consider your consultancy fee for '21 II: Aponte Strikes Back'.

What a pity Ben's geek friends didn't design something to protect his 300 grand stashed above his bed... Maybe geeks aren't all that bright sometimes?

[Brutus]

Originally Posted by Katweezel

Hollywood should consider your consultancy fee for '21 II: Aponte Strikes Back'.

yea, in an oversized darth vader outfit, whipping cards through the air like ninja stars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMoc7tHMQOg
tutorial

[johndoe]

Originally Posted by Mr. Magoo

The movie is set to be in modern times, but the component is a through-hole device. It has leads on it that are to either be inserted into a socket or into the holes of a circuit board and soldered. This is a 1970s/1980s component. Any cutting edge designer in the 1990s/2000s would be using a surface mount part.

Also, the part is not protected from electro-static discharge and he hands the part to his buddy outside in cold weather where static electricity is amplified. This would ensure that the component would be ruined.

That's not true, lots of people still use through-hole parts for cutting-edge work. They're a lot easier to work with, and even more popular among components requiring power (motor control, perhaps?)

And as for static, chips aren't *that* fragile. He can easily do this and not ruin the chip.

[Katweezel]

Originally Posted by Brutus

yea, in an oversized darth vader outfit, whipping cards through the air like ninja stars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMoc7tHMQOg
tutorial

Ooo man, when I saw the 4 of hearts cutting the banana clean off, wow... Jesus is some kinda freak with a deck of cards ain't he? He is one dangerous dude. Snap!

[Brutus]

Originally Posted by Katweezel

Ooo man, when I saw the 4 of hearts cutting the banana clean off, wow... Jesus is some kinda freak with a deck of cards ain't he? He is one dangerous dude. Snap!

theres something troubling about the banana and the pickle.
just imagine mike slinging cards with the vader get up in your new movie. whaaaa... take that lv casino... whaaaaaaaa take that counting student... whaaaaa indian casino...... anybody else want a piece of the action?

ps. the mit sympathizers/agitators managed to get the other thread closed.

thanks guys

[Mr. Magoo]

Originally Posted by johndoe

That's not true, lots of people still use through-hole parts for cutting-edge work. They're a lot easier to work with, and even more popular among components requiring power (motor control, perhaps?)

And as for static, chips aren't *that* fragile. He can easily do this and not ruin the chip.

Please think about it. Yes, through-hole components are still used, especially for circuitry that require higher current and power such as driving a motor. Field Effect Transistors, TRIACS, and the like will always have large leads and are less susceptable to damage by static.

On the other hand, Ben's geek buddies were waiting for this special chip. A single person cannot build a micro-circuit integrated chip. It has to be made with equipment costing many millions of dollars. Why couldn't those guys just buy the part like Ben would have to do? The reason was that Ben had written a machine code program and had to program a blank memory chip with a piece of equipment called a PROM (programable read only memory) Programmer. These components are VLSI (very large scale integration) meaning that they are extremely complex having hundreds of thousands or millions of transistors that are super tiny and highly susceptable to damage by static electricity. Nowadays, the latest model, larger scale, faster running programmable parts only come in the latest SMT (surface mount technology) packages.

Of course, once a program is written, it can be programmed into an unlimited number of the components, but Ben was only carrying one to his buddies. Any self respecting geek would be practicing safe electro-static discharge practices, especially outside in cold weather. Just look at the precautions Michael Douglas' crew were practicing in the movie Disclosure before Demi Moore screwed everything up in more ways than one.

This all brings up another unreasonable theme of the movie. How could somebody be both an advanced electronic hardware and firmware design engineer and be focusing on medical college, working in a clothing store, and not be able to get a student loan?

Oh, and the Gee you have A1 eyesight Magoo was very clever, Katweezel.

[Katweezel]

Originally Posted by Brutus

theres something troubling about the banana and the pickle.
just imagine mike slinging cards with the vader get up in your new movie. whaaaa... take that lv casino... whaaaaaaaa take that counting student... whaaaaa indian casino...... anybody else want a piece of the action?

ps. the mit sympathizers/agitators managed to get the other thread closed.

thanks guys

Threads could get closed for a variety of reasons, I guess. Pity about that one though, as it was just getting interesting... Fortunately, the vast majority of threads manage to escape the censor's axe, which could mean that most posters here generally exercise common sense and relative balance. In threads of a uh... a sensitive nature, I imagine a moderator's task might be more difficult than normal. This may have been one of those...