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Old September 17th, 2009, 01:19 AM
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no joke and I committed no crime. And if this casino is reading this, you can go f-ck yourself and your crazy idea of your casino wanting to be player friendly. The poster boards are definitely right about everyone losing there as your casino is the most amateur run casino I've ever seen and I've seen a lot in my lifetime. You have lost my business as well as probably countless others because of your insane actions.
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Old September 17th, 2009, 01:31 AM
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no joke and I committed no crime. And if this casino is reading this, you can go f-ck yourself and your crazy idea of your casino wanting to be player friendly. The poster boards are definitely right about everyone losing there as your casino is the most amateur run casino I've ever seen and I've seen a lot in my lifetime. You have lost my business as well as probably countless others because of your insane actions.
And what reason did the casino give for this action? I ask because of course as you probably are aware, it is illegal for a NJ casino to tresspass you for being an advantage player. They can however can you for committing a criminal act, being disorderly, including drunk or creating a disturbance. So with all due respect, thunder, i ask, is there more to your story than you have stated so far?? If not you may want to talk to a lawyer, you may have some serious positive EV coming your way in the form of a lawsuit settlement.

can you share which casino this was??
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Old September 17th, 2009, 01:52 AM
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Yeah I wasn't going to reveal all the details on here. Sent pm. They actually will throw you out for being an advantage player but they do it under the guise of another reason.

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Old September 17th, 2009, 10:31 AM
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no joke and I committed no crime. And if this casino is reading this, you can go f-ck yourself and your crazy idea of your casino wanting to be player friendly. The poster boards are definitely right about everyone losing there as your casino is the most amateur run casino I've ever seen and I've seen a lot in my lifetime. You have lost my business as well as probably countless others because of your insane actions.
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And what reason did the casino give for this action? I ask because of course as you probably are aware, it is illegal for a NJ casino to tresspass you for being an advantage player. They can however can you for committing a criminal act, being disorderly, including drunk or creating a disturbance. So with all due respect, thunder, i ask, is there more to your story than you have stated so far?? If not you may want to talk to a lawyer, you may have some serious positive EV coming your way in the form of a lawsuit settlement.

can you share which casino this was??
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Yeah I wasn't going to reveal all the details on here. Sent pm. They actually will throw you out for being an advantage player but they do it under the guise of another reason.

Let us play a guessing game---based on your comments: "I got thrown out of a casino in AC...The poster boards are definitely right about everyone losing there as your casino is the most amateur run casino I've ever seen and I've seen a lot in my lifetime." UAW has badmouthed 4 casinos on AC Express billboards for illegal anti-union practices, and I guess the nastiest casino is one of these 4 casinos:

1) Bally's Park Place
2) Caesars
3) Plaza
4) Tropicana

I have to use the process of elimination to guess the right answer. First, CEO Jim will never allow Plaza to kick out APs without a very good reason. Second, Caesars is one of the most APs-tolerant casinos. Thirdly, Tropicana won't kick APs out illegally because of the Campione case. So as an educated guess, I would say Bally's has kicked you out illegally.
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Old September 17th, 2009, 01:45 PM
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Hey Thunder,
Can you please PM the the details as well?
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Old September 17th, 2009, 05:50 PM
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Just post the details here. What's the point of your post, otherwise?
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Old September 17th, 2009, 06:38 PM
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Just to let people know that you're not immune from being thrown out of AC casinos despite what the courts ruled in Ken Uston's case. I don't think it would be wise to post the details on here.
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Old September 19th, 2009, 02:27 PM
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Just to let people know that you're not immune from being thrown out of AC casinos despite what the courts ruled in Ken Uston's case. I don't think it would be wise to post the details on here.
What wouldn't be wise about it? I can think of no repercussions you could face as a result except to help your fellow player.
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What wouldn't be wise about it? I can think of no repercussions you could face as a result except to help your fellow player.


Woof,

Trust me he cannot go into anymore detail, accept what he has written and chill.

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Old September 21st, 2009, 10:50 AM
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What wouldn't be wise about it? I can think of no repercussions you could face as a result except to help your fellow player.
Should an AP help his follow players to learn more about barrings in AC casinos? Sure. I like helping, It's good karma. A helping hand and good karma always have a way of coming back to you.

As this old saying goes: 'Learn from others' mistakes, you are not going to live long enough to make them all yourself'. An AP should try to avoid barrings in AC by learning from other APs' mistakes. The Morse case is a good example for us to learn from. Expert Tracker David Morse has been barred from AC casinos because NJCCC "BELIEVES" that Morse is a "cheater", not a tracker. So don't give casinos & NJCCC any excuse to bar you. Here's the case info & photo from the NJCCC's barring file:

"Morse was videotaped by casino surveillance departments at Trump Plaza, Taj Mahal, Caesars, TropWorld, Resorts, Bally's Park Place, Bally's Grand, Trump Castle, and Sands, as he tried to influence the game of blackjack by manipulating or attempting to manipulate the cut card in the deck to determine what card would be the first card dealt. Rather than place the cut card back into the deck in the manner required, Morse would place the cut card in the deck in a manner that would enable him to determine what card would be dealt to him after the shuffle, thus giving him an unfair advantage."
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