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Old April 20th, 2010, 09:10 PM
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I WENT THERE MYSELF. yUP, ALL CSM.
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Old April 20th, 2010, 11:38 PM
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There are tables available to everyone on Level 1. Opening weekend had $10, $20 and $50 tables, they now have only $50 and $100 tables. Even with this they are crowded and lots of players tagging along on your bets, this must be an Asian thing, I am American living in Singapore.
Thanks for the info. Singapore Dollars 10, 20 and 50 are reasonable table limits.

What are the rules?

And yeah, Asian casinos are pretty much all CSM these days. This is bad for advantage players (obviously), but the house edges on the BJ tend to be lower... Macau's average HE is 0.16% even on low-roller tables, with the Wynn and MGM Grand being even lower at 0.1%. Also, last time I was there, Wynn used a discard tray of 1 deck, so you do get some slight fluctation in the true count. Although I heard they got rid of that a while ago, they might have brought it back though.

But yeah, what are the BJ rules in Singapore?
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Old April 21st, 2010, 03:38 AM
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I tell ya the rules you tell me the bj edge.

DAS. Split only 2 x. Dealer stays on soft 17. Double on 9, 10, 11. Early surrender . ENHC. However , with dealer's upcard ACE no Surrender.

And singaporeans need to pay SGD100 to enter.



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Thanks for the info. Singapore Dollars 10, 20 and 50 are reasonable table limits.

What are the rules?

And yeah, Asian casinos are pretty much all CSM these days. This is bad for advantage players (obviously), but the house edges on the BJ tend to be lower... Macau's average HE is 0.16% even on low-roller tables, with the Wynn and MGM Grand being even lower at 0.1%. Also, last time I was there, Wynn used a discard tray of 1 deck, so you do get some slight fluctation in the true count. Although I heard they got rid of that a while ago, they might have brought it back though.

But yeah, what are the BJ rules in Singapore?
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Old April 21st, 2010, 06:13 AM
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I tell ya the rules you tell me the bj edge.

DAS. Split only 2 x. Dealer stays on soft 17. Double on 9, 10, 11. Early surrender . ENHC. However , with dealer's upcard ACE no Surrender.

And singaporeans need to pay SGD100 to enter.
What is the number of decks? For the purposes of this, I'll assume its six. Also, can the player double after a split? For the purposes of this analysis, I'll assume they can. Also, I assume you only get one card on split aces?

Also, is this Resorts World Sentosa or Sands?

So, rules are 6d, S17, SplitOnce, One card only on split aces, DAS, D9-11, ES10, ENHC.

Before taking ES10 into account, the house edge is a massive 0.67% (TERRIBLE!!!!)

Subtracting 0.24% for the ES10 (I should add, this is the advantage of ES10 relative to NO SURRENDER, against LS the advantage from ES10 is 0.16%), the house edge is 0.43%

Okay, given my assumptions (6 deck, DAS, 1 card on split aces) the house edge is 0.43%

This is VERY inferior to Macau. It IS, however, better than anything in Australia... although I think Crown's Mahogany Room has roughly the same house edge.

Overall conclusion; under these rules, with a CSM, go to Macau instead.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 08:00 AM
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It is split twice and 4 ecks. Further, ES on 9 .

it is resorts. sands is not up now.



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What is the number of decks? For the purposes of this, I'll assume its six. Also, can the player double after a split? For the purposes of this analysis, I'll assume they can. Also, I assume you only get one card on split aces?

Also, is this Resorts World Sentosa or Sands?

So, rules are 6d, S17, SplitOnce, One card only on split aces, DAS, D9-11, ES10, ENHC.

Before taking ES10 into account, the house edge is a massive 0.67% (TERRIBLE!!!!)

Subtracting 0.24% for the ES10 (I should add, this is the advantage of ES10 relative to NO SURRENDER, against LS the advantage from ES10 is 0.16%), the house edge is 0.43%

Okay, given my assumptions (6 deck, DAS, 1 card on split aces) the house edge is 0.43%

This is VERY inferior to Macau. It IS, however, better than anything in Australia... although I think Crown's Mahogany Room has roughly the same house edge.

Overall conclusion; under these rules, with a CSM, go to Macau instead.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 10:03 AM
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Chessplayer - is there a cash back program? And can Caucasians get it or only Asians?
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Old April 21st, 2010, 06:40 PM
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It is split twice and 4 ecks. Further, ES on 9 .

it is resorts. sands is not up now.
By "split twice" you mean if its a pair of non-aces, you can form up to three hands?

I assumed ES on 9 (like Macau), so that was taken into account. When I say ES10 I mean ES on anything that isn't an ace.

OK, so assuming you can split to three hands total, except on aces...

4deck S17 DAS ES10 ENHC D9-11 Split3 NRSA

House edge before Early Surrender is taken into account = 0.57%

Subtract 0.24% for ES10

Total house edge = 0.33%

This is actually a pretty good game. Not as good as Macau (about twice as bad as the average Macau game) but much better than Australia and slightly better (in house edge terms) than the standard low-roller game on the Las Vegas Strip.

Thanks for the info! By the way, do they put the cards back into the machine after every hand? Or do they have a discard tray that's 1 deck high which they fill before placing back into the machine?
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Old April 21st, 2010, 07:34 PM
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I have gotten answers regarding house edge ranging from 0.31 to0.4 sothis should be about there.

However they put the cards back every round and before every round begins wash 1 card.



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By " 4deck S17 DAS ES10 ENHC D9-11 Split3 NRSA

House edge before Early Surrender is taken into account = 0.57%

Subtract 0.24% for ES10

Total house edge = 0.33%
Thanks for the info! By the way, do they put the cards back into the machine after every hand? Or do they have a discard tray that's 1 deck high which they fill before placing back into the machine?
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Old April 21st, 2010, 07:39 PM
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If by cash back you mean rewards by playing, I have heard it is bad as compared to Genting. Only seated players can get points, whereas in genting you get pts as a wonger provided you bet about the same amount.

www.genting.com.my

I compare it to genting because it is one of the only 7or so casinos I have been to, and their rewards point are usable at either place.

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Old July 15th, 2010, 12:21 AM
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