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Old October 19th, 2009, 02:18 PM
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I played 1000 hands at Bodog flat betting $1 a hand and using basic strategy. My expected loss was about $5 but I ended up positive $117.

That's over 3.5 standard deviations from the expected loss. The probability of something like that happening is less than 1 out of 2000. I'm not that lucky, Bodog must have cheated.
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Old October 19th, 2009, 02:34 PM
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Old October 19th, 2009, 03:04 PM
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First of all thank you for your replies. Special thanks to the Bodog representative here - what a surprise! :-)
Pleasure!! Also, PM me if you have any questions and/or issues with CS and need another point of entry into the Bodog site you are playing with based on your location. I am in touch with the Bodog licensees on a daily basis and can get you answers quickly!
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Old October 19th, 2009, 03:37 PM
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So....

you believe they are cheating to help you win, right ? Does that sound likely to you ?

1 in 2000 - not so unlikely - it happens. You have to be talking more SDs to be suspicious, and yet more SDs to be almost sure something is fishy. Just be grateful you are on the right side of the curve....

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I played 1000 hands at Bodog flat betting $1 a hand and using basic strategy. My expected loss was about $5 but I ended up positive $117.

That's over 3.5 standard deviations from the expected loss. The probability of something like that happening is less than 1 out of 2000. I'm not that lucky, Bodog must have cheated.
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Old October 19th, 2009, 08:54 PM
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So....

you believe they are cheating to help you win, right ? Does that sound likely to you ?

1 in 2000 - not so unlikely - it happens. You have to be talking more SDs to be suspicious, and yet more SDs to be almost sure something is fishy. Just be grateful you are on the right side of the curve....

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I think he was being sarcastic.
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Old October 19th, 2009, 09:19 PM
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The winning and losing streaks on Bodog BJ are ridiculously long. You might have a good run of winning hands (this happened to me), but I feel that is the catch. If you stay and continue playing, you will lose everything back pretty quickly. They gave you an impression it is easy to win at their table, which I deem as a bait to lure you spend more money there.

So it doesn't matter you win or lose - frequent long winning / losing streak suffices to pose a suspicion. Like I said, after long time play I feel their BJ is extremely unnatural / unreal.

Do a search on "Does Bodog cheat?" on the internet you will come across some interesting results. Here are a few I found:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...3134918AAqMYb9

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/Play...g/default.aspx

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...om-rigged.html

And many more.

Now I just realized not only me has this experience!

1) When we bet big, we lose quickly down to zero.

2) Very unnatural streaky win / loss.

3) Small cards seldom busts (with Bet365 they bust as expected), and often turn into 21 to beat the player.

4) Doubling is a very risky and scary thing to do with Bodog. Your 11 or 10 seldom gets a 10 and you double only to see you lose to dealer's 5 or 6. Happens way too often.

5) Considering their HE is lower than 0.36% according to their BJ rules (they even allow resplitting split hands), it becomes more suspicious.

6) Online BJ like Bet365 and land based casinos are REALLY very different.

Their BJ is UNREAL not for one night - it has been that way night after night, day after day since I first played there.

It is very legitimate to distrust their game.

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Old October 19th, 2009, 09:21 PM
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I think he was being sarcastic.
I dont think he was being sarcastic. You just dont get it.

His point is same as mine: frequent, extremely long winning streak is as suspicious as losing streak.

Very unnatural compared to other online BJ and land based casinos.
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Old October 21st, 2009, 12:13 AM
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Old October 21st, 2009, 07:30 AM
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I dont think he was being sarcastic. You just dont get it.

His point is same as mine: frequent, extremely long winning streak is as suspicious as losing streak.

Very unnatural compared to other online BJ and land based casinos.
You're right. I don't get it. I am just a gullible moron who thinks that a large, well known online casino wouldn't cheat on a game where they already have the edge.
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Old October 21st, 2009, 08:11 AM
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You're right. I don't get it. I am just a gullible moron who thinks that a large, well known online casino wouldn't cheat on a game where they already have the edge.
This does not alter the fact that you did misunderstand what Guynoire said, does it?

Let me ask you this: if an online casino already has the house edge, why are there still so many rogue casinos around that want to rip people off?

And let me answer it for you: to make some money and to make a lot of money quickly are hugely different to some people. It is all about greed, which is part of human nature, like you and me, like some casinos that are run by real people.

As I said, I don't think it is a coincidence that so many players have complained about Bodog. There must be a reason. And we have this negative feeling becuase of our first hand experience, not assumption like yours (a large online casino will never cheat).

Now get it?

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