counting with shuffle machines?

#1
hi, i just turned 18 yesterday and have been practicing counting for a while. when i got the conrad jupters cas (australia) , i found that they use a shuffle machine. there are 6 decks in a machine and after each hand, the dealer places the cards back into the machine. how am i supposed to count when i cant see how many decks are remaining and vary my bet?

i managed to win 50 by using bs and also by playing hands after i have seen alot of low cards come out but how can i count with these machines?
 
#2
Andrew Scott

Apparently if you pay Andrew Scott $9000.00 he can tell you how to beat and count the CSM's, since he is the only person in the world that can do it? Then see StandardDeviant (on this site) about a fine bridge he has for sale... with your projected winnings from beating the CSM's you can well afford it.

Okay... I might be offbase by a few miles. Read into this site further and you will find all the answers you seek with regard to CSM's without even having to ask, along with lots of other valuable information that could save you the grief of learning by trial and error.
 
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daniel27

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#3
AK suited said:
hi, i just turned 18 yesterday and have been practicing counting for a while. when i got the conrad jupters cas (australia) , i found that they use a shuffle machine. there are 6 decks in a machine and after each hand, the dealer places the cards back into the machine. how am i supposed to count when i cant see how many decks are remaining and vary my bet?

i managed to win 50 by using bs and also by playing hands after i have seen alot of low cards come out but how can i count with these machines?
u can`t beat a CSM, maybe with a shootgun.:joker:
all the idea of counting is about the fact of the knowledge of the remaining cards so with a CSM how can u know that??? ah??
Daniel27
PS: do not play CSM and tell your friends they should not do it.
 
#4
ohh thats ****, iv been practicing for a long time now and to find that i cant count is ****. i will probably check out that site about the csm's, thanks guys
 
#6
The Description

What he described,"Putting used/played cards right back into the machine" indicates a CSM and not an auto shuffler. Used/played cards going into a discard rack and then into a machine at the end of the shoe indicates an auto shuffler.
 

21gunsalute

Well-Known Member
#7
Tarzan said:
Apparently if you pay Andrew Scott $9000.00 he can tell you how to beat and count the CSM's, since he is the only person in the world that can do it? Then see StandardDeviant (on this site) about a fine bridge he has for sale... with your projected winnings from beating the CSM's you can well afford it.
Hey! She's selling me that bridge and it's a private sale. I don't think you'll want to incur her wrath after she sees that you referred to her as "he". ;)
 

psyduck

Well-Known Member
#8
How do you know for sure if someone is a "she" or "he"? Why does it matter? Don't forget this is the internet. That could be an "it"!
 
#9
LoLz .. Andrew Scott the only one in the world to beat the CSM?
I highly doubt that! And why would Mr. Scott tell us how to
beat the CSM at such a 'petty' price. If you knew what you
were doing on the CSM it would be priceless!!! LoL!

You can do it too Daniel. A shotgun not required, that's old
school country western style. Just put your mind to it, use
your gut instincts if you have any. You will succeed, but
it will take time to learn how to beat it.

-- CSM*ith (International Team of Hackers)
 

daniel27

Well-Known Member
#10
C-SMith said:
LoLz .. Andrew Scott the only one in the world to beat the CSM?
I highly doubt that! And why would Mr. Scott tell us how to
beat the CSM at such a 'petty' price. If you knew what you
were doing on the CSM it would be priceless!!! LoL!

You can do it too Daniel. A shotgun not required, that's old
school country western style. Just put your mind to it, use
your gut instincts if you have any. You will succeed, but
it will take time to learn how to beat it.

-- CSM*ith (International Team of Hackers)
well,,,,,, i do not play in CSM the nearest casino with CSM is hours away in fact(for luck) if my locals casino bring CSM i will contact u, for now thanks anyway
Daniel
 

Finn Dog

Well-Known Member
#11
Take My Advice

At 18, you should be concentrating all your efforts on getting an education--and not one in Blackjack.

In general, you need 1000 units for an acceptable risk of ruin. Use that money for schooling instead, so you can get a high paying job in a career that is immune to ebbs and flows of recession. That's the key in today's economy.

Then, you can play all the Blackjack you want.

Best regards,

FD
 

UK-21

Well-Known Member
#12
Yup, an undertaker who can count cards, shuffle track and sequence has got it made. A bad session or two? Don't worry, there'll be another job along in a couple of days - especially during the winter season.

:)
 
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