Not risking your own money...

WABJ11

Well-Known Member
#1
I have had success using Intercasino's monthly bonus by depositing $100 and then having that matched. Then cashing out my original deposit and playing and trying to meet the wager requirements with the bonus money as intercasino does not take the bonus money away once a cashout is made. This way I can still win without risking my own money.

What I was wondering is what other casinos have this same offer? In other words, allow you to cashout and play with their bonus money.
 

neemo6

Well-Known Member
#3
Have you tried withdrawling the bonus money yet? That doesnt seem right. You made a deposit got the bonus money, then immediatley took out your original deposit, w/o meeting the wr? I dont think they'll let you cash out the bonus at this point.
 

WABJ11

Well-Known Member
#4
No no, they dont let you cash out the bonus. However, they let you keep the bonus in your account to meet wager requirements. So in other words, your playing with their money to meet requirements while your original deposit is safely tucked away in your bank account.

In other words they dont let you cash out the bonus, but they do let you cash out your originial deposit. Clear?
 
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#5
Be careful doing this

I would be careful when doing this. When the casinos catch up with this kind of practice they will bar your casino account. It clearly states in the terms and conditions of all casinos that bonus abuse will not be tolerated. This is seen as bonus abuse as you are not risking any of your own money. I would suggest keeping your money in the account, and if you get down to your deposit ammount then withdraw. It is still technically bonus abuse, but a little less recognisable. I have heard from a few members on my site of accounts being banned, so it can happen.
 
#6
Let me tell you a little somethin about INTERCASINO...

Even with that 100% bonus, their BJ game is highly unfair. There's multiple threads on this forum about it. Worst runs i've ever had have been there. A month ago, I gave one last kick at the cat there, and it was the same B.S.
Everyday you play, its guaranteed that these runs will happen, OFTEN: : You go against a face card or ACE, 9 out of every 10 hands , and every 12-16 you're dealt and hit, you're given a FACE to bust, 8 - 9/10 times. Me and a partner kept track and the stats were staggering. RNG? B.S!

The dealer goes on runs where he has Ace up 4 - 5 times in a row, making blackjack everytime you don't take insurance, and not having it when you do. If you do take insurance, its lost, and there's always an 8 or 9 behind it to to make a soft 19 or 20 to beat whatever you've drawn (if you didn't bust already) . I know, it sounds like I'm whining... well, I am.. but with just cause. And I was comforted to know when I browsed these threads that I wasn't the only one who has lost a pile at that place. My only relief is knowing they will never get another dime of my hard earned.
 
#7
I've won a lot of money off Inter in the past. Although I've seen a lot of these absurd losing streaks, and have had plenty of times where I've lost loads, I wouldn't blame the casino or the software, it's just what happens on the internet. You have to bear in mind that with each hand being newly dealt on every single hand the dealer has an advantage, so naturally there will be times when you get a succession of losses whilst it's highly unlikely you'll get similar winning streaks. And when you're betting a ton of hands in quick succession, those streaks are going to come even more and seem closer together. The casino doesn't have to be crooked for that, it's the nature of the game and any online casino is going to have exactly the same results if you play it long enough. Of course if you look carefully at any one site studying for losing streaks you're going to find them.

This sort of paranoia about certain casinos being worse to play at than others is tantamount to superstition. Anywhere online, you should be expecting to lose, not blaming them when you do.
 

KenSmith

Administrator
Staff member
#8
phaws said:
And when you're betting a ton of hands in quick succession, those streaks are going to come even more and seem closer together.
I believe you've pinpointed the main reason that losing streaks online seem worse. In a land-based casino, a lengthy losing streak is interrupted by the normal slowness of the game, the other players, the cocktail waitress, and perhaps a shuffle of the shoe in the middle.

Online, the same losing streak happens in two minutes or so, and you're left just staring at the screen incredulously.

Certainly, everyone should form their own opinion about online play, and if you have sincere doubts, you shouldn't be playing online. However, my experience has been that the games at the major online casinos are fair. I have about $5 million in overall bets online, and my results are pretty close to what one would expect.
 
#9
You raise some valid points, things I didn't originally consider.... but... I still have a beef with Inter specifically. Don't get me wrong, I've won and lost at several different online sites, primarily either C-O-N, Micrograming Sites or Crypto sites, with various results, but i've noticed Cryptologic/Wagerlogic sites like INTER and Sands are far more outrageous for these "bad runs" than others.

I may not have been specific enough in my original post to point out that this wasn't just one bad day either, it's consistent. It got so ridicolous you were either chuckling in disbelief or putting your fist through your monitor (I choose the more pacifist approach). As I mentioned last time, and putting aside that its reshuffled after every hand, etc etc , how is it random with these following results from 5 sessions (days) of playing:

Playing basic strategy with occasional progressive bet after 2 wins up to 4x original bet only. (which is laughable because it almost never happened).

- Multiple runs of dealer Ace up 4 times in a row and 5 times in 6 hands, or

- Face card up and another 10/face in the hole 92% of the time faced with that session. (approx 155 hands)

- As mentioned, insurance, which I almost never take, Dealer had BJ EVERY time (yes, everytime) no insurance was taken. To test, 5 instances I took insurance when I had hands of 19,20. All times, no BJ, insurance lost, dealer had an 8 or 9 Hole card each time, winning one and pushing 1/2 the other bet back.

- Seperate runs of 10, 12, 13 hands in a row by dealer of no busting on 3,4,5,6,7, including insane 21's drawn on between 5 and 7 cards. As an example, you have 10,9 for 19 against 4. Dealer draws (4) A,A,8,A,A,5 for 21.
Several instances of various combinations of this occur.

- Continous runs of busting on all draw hands, usually right off the bat with 12, busting with a face (almost always KQJ). If you do manage a small draw, its to 16 , then a face to bust.

- An unusual amount of Aces handed to you on your double down on 11 against 7,8,9 and Face, dealer always had 10/Face as whole , wiping it out.

5 different sessions, ladies and gents... 5 different sessions on 5 different days in a calendar month.

Honestly, I think its fair and valid to bring this out in the open and let people judge for themselves when you see a lot of cheerleading about sites because their bonuses are good. It should never just be about the bonuses. Ultimately, you're not there just to take the bonus and run. Regular players at land casinos don't go once only, pray for a good day then never go back again. If the games are fair, its hoped that each day / session you play , you win more times than you don't. Be it over a week, month, year. That's when it becomes either a worthwhile or non worthwhile venture.
 
#10
How many hands were you doing in these 5 sessions? Personally I do see that sort of play a lot, at all online casinos, and it can seem ludicrous, but 5 bad sessions can happen perfectly legitimately, it's just very poor luck. I can understand the annoyance, I've ended up losing the bonus loads of times after seemingly even play just bottoms out, and that's mostly just on minimum bets (for I am just a pauper), but I wouldn't say it's rigged that way, blackjack can simply be a wild game.

As Ken says, though, it's up to you to feel comfortable playing there. Chances are if you believe it's in poor form then you're never going to enjoy their game.

However, 'If the games are fair, its hoped that each day / session you play , you win more times than you don't.'; you might hope to win more sessions, but an online casino you certainly shouldn't expect it anywhere.
 

LeonShuffle

Well-Known Member
#11
I've played many, many on-line casinos and have had normal results at just about all of them. However, I stopped playing for the monthly bonus at Intercasino after two straight months of the worst results I've ever had. Both times I was betting $2 a hand the entire time and both times I tapped out WAY before I reached the WR. I'm not saying it's not fair software, I just find those results too disturbing to continue there.
 
#12
LeonShuffle said:
I've played many, many on-line casinos and have had normal results at just about all of them. However, I stopped playing for the monthly bonus at Intercasino after two straight months of the worst results I've ever had. Both times I was betting $2 a hand the entire time and both times I tapped out WAY before I reached the WR. I'm not saying it's not fair software, I just find those results too disturbing to continue there.
I agree, if you aren't feeling the place then move on to the next one. Playing just to get the bonus isn't the best strategy, if you are going to play why not try and get a lot more than just the bonus :D
 
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