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January 1st, 2010, 02:06 PM
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1 Year Anniversary
So, its been a year since me and my cousin joined bankrolls to create an EMFH (Every Man For Himself) team. We started with a BR of 6.9k and after 1 year, 180 hours of combined playing time (semi-casual playing), we are now at 14.3k, about 1k above expectation. Experienced some big swings, which sadly, the negative ones were at the strong games.
As happy with my game as I have been, just until before my last trip, there has definately been a turn of events. With new knowledge of the games available, I decided to make an attempt hole carding. Scouting has always been one of my weakest aspects of the game, as I am always so anxious to just sit down and get some hours in. However, I was adamant to try to find at least 1 flasher before the day was over. And as it so happened, I found one in the first couple of hours of scouting. And this game was good. Luckily, my partner was coming on this trip too, so we played as often as we can. However, due to our inexperience, we were unable to have as good information as most players would love to have. This HCing experience has definately showed me the importance of scouting, and I will definately be doing it a lot more.
I want to thank everyone on the forums here that has been so helpful with the advice that they have given me since I started learning the game. A special thanks to the following for everything that they have done to get me to where I am right now:
Canceller
CreepingPanther
ExhibitCAA
iCountNTrack
Pro21
QFIT
Sonny
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January 1st, 2010, 02:21 PM
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Freaking impressive work. Cool graph.
Keep up the good work. Congrats.
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January 1st, 2010, 04:09 PM
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sLEIGHT
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Originally Posted by SleightOfHand
So, its been a year since me and my cousin joined bankrolls to create an EMFH (Every Man For Himself) team. We started with a BR of 6.9k and after 1 year, 180 hours of combined playing time (semi-casual playing), we are now at 14.3k, about 1k above expectation. Experienced some big swings, which sadly, the negative ones were at the strong games.
As happy with my game as I have been, just until before my last trip, there has definately been a turn of events. With new knowledge of the games available, I decided to make an attempt hole carding. Scouting has always been one of my weakest aspects of the game, as I am always so anxious to just sit down and get some hours in. However, I was adamant to try to find at least 1 flasher before the day was over. And as it so happened, I found one in the first couple of hours of scouting. And this game was good. Luckily, my partner was coming on this trip too, so we played as often as we can. However, due to our inexperience, we were unable to have as good information as most players would love to have. This HCing experience has definately showed me the importance of scouting, and I will definately be doing it a lot more.
I want to thank everyone on the forums here that has been so helpful with the advice that they have given me since I started learning the game. A special thanks to the following for everything that they have done to get me to where I am right now:
Canceller
CreepingPanther
ExhibitCAA
iCountNTrack
Pro21
QFIT
Sonny
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Thanks,... very impressive, just as I would expect of you
CP
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January 3rd, 2010, 03:52 PM
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hi,
just wondering...how it is possible to get an expectation of 13.3k with a bankroll of 6.9k after only 180 hours of play. Risk of ruin must be extremely high...or am i missing something?
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January 3rd, 2010, 04:01 PM
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Possible???
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Originally Posted by idontneedluck
hi,
just wondering...how it is possible to get an expectation of 13.3k with a bankroll of 6.9k after only 180 hours of play. Risk of ruin must be extremely high...or am i missing something?
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Possible when you are so determined to become an expert player that you attend a BJ BASH, f lying into the middle of Bear and Moose and Panther and Elk country, to an airport that few have ever heard of, and wait to be picked up by a BJ player you have never met, go to a casino in the middle of nowhere to meet other AP's you have never met, and you are barely over 21!!!
Now that should tell you all you need to know about Sleight and his drive and initiative and fearlessness.
CP
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January 3rd, 2010, 04:09 PM
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drive and initiative do nothing to change mathematical calculations of expectation...ah maybe fearlessness (risk of ruin)
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January 3rd, 2010, 04:46 PM
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Been away playing another game
I play aggresively in the games I play at. In my last trip, I have been spreading 1-10 regularly in my DD games, while on occasion splitting to multiple hands of 10 and even had times where I bet 2x15. With the indeces that I use, and the quality of game I was playing, CVCX shows an expectation of 5 units/hr. I also played some HC games. When I play, I play hard  . Oh, and we play .6 Kelly, although we plan to play .5 because of the recent growth.
Last edited by SleightOfHand; January 3rd, 2010 at 10:57 PM.
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January 3rd, 2010, 04:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by idontneedluck
drive and initiative do nothing to change mathematical calculations of expectation...ah maybe fearlessness (risk of ruin)
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No but it changes what you will be mathematically calculating. Passive play delivers passive results.
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January 3rd, 2010, 05:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by idontneedluck
drive and initiative do nothing to change mathematical calculations of expectation
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They do.
Skill development, staying sharp, sticking to a game plan, having the stones to spread properly, etc. Those things affect your return, and are affected by drive and initiative. They may not "change mathematical calculations" as you say, but it is very hard to meet those mathematical expectations without them.
good luck
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January 3rd, 2010, 11:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChefJJ
They do.
Skill development, staying sharp, sticking to a game plan, having the stones to spread properly, etc. Those things affect your return, and are affected by drive and initiative. They may not "change mathematical calculations" as you say, but it is very hard to meet those mathematical expectations without them.
good luck 
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Just came back from a short trip and lost more than 250 units in a single shoe (max bet 30 units). Made back 100 or so, but luckily my partner was able to cover my loss, which made it a lot more bearable.
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