lowly redbird wanting help.

#1
Hello fellow BJ players! First time posting here. First question I have is the strategy trainer on this site dependable? I have played the trainer for 9 hours and simulate the game that I play in the local indian casino's here. 8 Deck, 1.5 cut out of shoe, can double after splitting, 3:2 BJ, dealer hits soft 17. I have a $1000 playing BR, bet $15 to $75 depending on count. I can easily get these kinds of bets down in the casino's here as long as I play with red. My goal is to make $100 per day. On the training game here at this site, seems very simple to do. I have been a long time Basic strategy player, and now have invested enough time to count down a deck of cards in 30 seconds. From you experts I am wondering if I can expect this result in the casinos? I appreciate all your input in advance, thank you.
 

Blue Efficacy

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#2
First, you need a bigger spread than 15-75 to beat a H17 8 decker with decent but non-remarkable penetration. Even if it had RSA and surrender you'd want to spread more. 8D H17 DAS with more than a deck cut is what we call a "marginal" game. Do they not have $5-$10 tables? Otherwise, wonging is a must, unfortunately.

You don't need to count down a deck in 30 seconds, you just need to be able to keep count in casino conditions, even with a fast dealer. Practicing counting down a deck is only useful to a point.

Making $100 a day is unrealistic with many blackjack games. It is a game of high variance, first of all, you will have a large minority of losing sessions with that game. Also with that spread, I am no expert but the averaged win rate would probably be less than most crappy part time jobs.

Also with that poor game, that $1k can be QUITE easily wiped out.

Not trying to be negative, sorry, but these facts must be disclosed. Playing this less than stellar game with a low bankroll and small spread will in fact be a high risk venture. I am almost tempted to say you should just stick with basic strategy, your money would probably last longer then.
 

kewljason

Well-Known Member
#3
I agree with most of what blue said. No 1 problem is your BR is too small. General rule of thumb is 100 top bets to have a reasonable chance of not going broke. Thats $7500 in your case. No 2 problem is 1-5 spread is not enough to beat this game unless you are not playing negative counts. If you could play a $10 table, as Blue suggested and spread $10 - $75 and sit out or leave negative true counts of -1, you would be much better off.

Here's where I will disagree with Blue. If you had the bankroll and could spread $10-$75, wonging out at -1, you should be able to make 1.5 - 2 units per hour, so playing 5-7 hours per day should net you an average of close to $100/day.
 
#4
First gentlemen, allow me to thank you for the information. Information like that is priceless, thanks. The game is a $5 table. I am not sure if it is any better for me spreading from $5 to $75? Plus I do want to clarify and see if it makes any difference and that is I have a playing BR of $1000 and a total BR of $10K. Perhaps my original thoughts of $100 win per day was a bit naive, but nevertheless, hopeful.
 
#5
Redbird

redbird said:
First gentlemen, allow me to thank you for the information. Information like that is priceless, thanks. The game is a $5 table. I am not sure if it is any better for me spreading from $5 to $75? Plus I do want to clarify and see if it makes any difference and that is I have a playing BR of $1000 and a total BR of $10K. Perhaps my original thoughts of $100 win per day was a bit naive, but nevertheless, hopeful.
Go to "Qfit" and buy his software, Casino Verite CV etc. and you will have answers to all your questions any time you want or need them. Today all BJ playas games are simmed and you can literally become an expert on the game in a few months. Every one is doing it.:)

Check the column on the left, BJ info store as you should be able to buy it here.

My Best,
CP
 

Deathclutch

Well-Known Member
#6
creeping panther said:
Go to "Qfit" and buy his software, Casino Verite CV etc. and you will have answers to all your questions any time you want or need them. Today all BJ playas games are simmed and you can literally become an expert on the game in a few months. Every one is doing it.:)

Check the column on the left, BJ info store as you should be able to buy it here.

My Best,
CP
You better start putting some smiley faces on here before people think you're serious CP! :p
 

Blue Efficacy

Well-Known Member
#7
redbird said:
First gentlemen, allow me to thank you for the information. Information like that is priceless, thanks. The game is a $5 table. I am not sure if it is any better for me spreading from $5 to $75? Plus I do want to clarify and see if it makes any difference and that is I have a playing BR of $1000 and a total BR of $10K. Perhaps my original thoughts of $100 win per day was a bit naive, but nevertheless, hopeful.
Again I am not an expert on this aspect but this should lower your risk of ruin a good amount. This is becoming big enough spread to adequately attack the game.
 

psyduck

Well-Known Member
#9
creeping panther said:
Go to "Qfit" and buy his software, Casino Verite CV etc. and you will have answers to all your questions any time you want or need them. Today all BJ playas games are simmed and you can literally become an expert on the game in a few months. Every one is doing it.:)
CP
Now I know how you developed your skillz!
 
#11
Psy

psyduck said:
Now I know how you developed your skillz!
Dig it,,,me and Norm go way back,,,,,:) Gotts to have that CV!!:cool:

And guess what I don't just play BJ on my camputer, I actually play in the..............................CASINO!!:yikes: :laugh:

CP
 
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