First of all, I do count cards, I have been doing it for about 5 weeks and I really like it,
but today when I went to a casino that I have been to once before, I decided to try Spanish 21 (I don't know basic strategy in Spanish 21 and I know its a -EV game)
I sat down at the table, Just me and the dealer, I noticed that the dealer was cutting to about 3/6 decks (HORRID penetration) but I was just playing to get the hang of playing so I didn't care as I wasn't planning on counting it.
because in S21 I don't know basic strategy (unlike in BJ) I was spending some time thinking about weather or not I was supposed to hit or stand or double or whatnot.
I entered mid shoe, (about 1 deck had been dealt) After I had played 4 hands the dealer asked me "are you thinking about how many low vs high cards have been delt?" I told him "no, Im trying to think of what move to make, Im used to playing Blackjack and Im no good at Spanish" He told me that the whole point in playing Spanish 21 is for the match the dealer bets, and If I dont want to make those bets I should go back to blackjack, I know the match the dealer bets have a house edge that is like 8* higher than the normal house edge for the game so I wasn't about to do that. I played with him for the remainder of the shoe, He kept giving me hints of what to do that were clearly NOT basic strategy (I know a bit of basic strategy, and you dont stand on a 12 vs a 8... ever)
After that shoe I moved over to Blackjack, they offer a semi alright DD game (but I have to share it with 4 other people so I only get 2 hands per shoe, and its %50 pen) the dealers in that casino rotate to different games every 30 minutes and in a hour the dealer that WAS dealing Spanish 21 to me was dealing in the DD blackjack game, I knew that he had marked me as a counter from the spanish 21 table (somehow, not sure how as I was flat betting the whole time and making basic strategy errors) and I placed a coupel $1 lucky ladies side bets just for cover. After he had been dealer to us for 10 minutes I sat out a hand (count was -1 but I wanted to get some water, plus I was flat betting) and he said to me "you don't like the count?" I said "Its fine, I want to get some water" and he said "Ive been dealing for longer than you've been alive, I can spot a player who doesn't play for recreation" I wanted to explain to him that I wasn't counting cards at his table for profit and even if I was it would have been impossible with less than %50 penetration and the house edge on the lucky ladies side bet would counter any edge I would have gotten.
I colored up and left soon after we had that little qualm, ($100 up, but it was pure luck as I know I was playing well below EV)
I know I should have left as soon as I was accused of counting but I figured it was so obvious that I wasn't it shouldn't have mattered.
What do you think that dealer was trying to go for? I was thinking he was trying to hustle tips but if I was playing for an edge and he wanted tips he would have cut the deck with deeper penetration. then I thought he was trying to put heat on me, but if he did it would have made me look even less like a counter because I was making the lucky ladies side bets and flat betting the table min. Then I thought he was just retarded, I settled with that one.
but today when I went to a casino that I have been to once before, I decided to try Spanish 21 (I don't know basic strategy in Spanish 21 and I know its a -EV game)
I sat down at the table, Just me and the dealer, I noticed that the dealer was cutting to about 3/6 decks (HORRID penetration) but I was just playing to get the hang of playing so I didn't care as I wasn't planning on counting it.
because in S21 I don't know basic strategy (unlike in BJ) I was spending some time thinking about weather or not I was supposed to hit or stand or double or whatnot.
I entered mid shoe, (about 1 deck had been dealt) After I had played 4 hands the dealer asked me "are you thinking about how many low vs high cards have been delt?" I told him "no, Im trying to think of what move to make, Im used to playing Blackjack and Im no good at Spanish" He told me that the whole point in playing Spanish 21 is for the match the dealer bets, and If I dont want to make those bets I should go back to blackjack, I know the match the dealer bets have a house edge that is like 8* higher than the normal house edge for the game so I wasn't about to do that. I played with him for the remainder of the shoe, He kept giving me hints of what to do that were clearly NOT basic strategy (I know a bit of basic strategy, and you dont stand on a 12 vs a 8... ever)
After that shoe I moved over to Blackjack, they offer a semi alright DD game (but I have to share it with 4 other people so I only get 2 hands per shoe, and its %50 pen) the dealers in that casino rotate to different games every 30 minutes and in a hour the dealer that WAS dealing Spanish 21 to me was dealing in the DD blackjack game, I knew that he had marked me as a counter from the spanish 21 table (somehow, not sure how as I was flat betting the whole time and making basic strategy errors) and I placed a coupel $1 lucky ladies side bets just for cover. After he had been dealer to us for 10 minutes I sat out a hand (count was -1 but I wanted to get some water, plus I was flat betting) and he said to me "you don't like the count?" I said "Its fine, I want to get some water" and he said "Ive been dealing for longer than you've been alive, I can spot a player who doesn't play for recreation" I wanted to explain to him that I wasn't counting cards at his table for profit and even if I was it would have been impossible with less than %50 penetration and the house edge on the lucky ladies side bet would counter any edge I would have gotten.
I colored up and left soon after we had that little qualm, ($100 up, but it was pure luck as I know I was playing well below EV)
I know I should have left as soon as I was accused of counting but I figured it was so obvious that I wasn't it shouldn't have mattered.
What do you think that dealer was trying to go for? I was thinking he was trying to hustle tips but if I was playing for an edge and he wanted tips he would have cut the deck with deeper penetration. then I thought he was trying to put heat on me, but if he did it would have made me look even less like a counter because I was making the lucky ladies side bets and flat betting the table min. Then I thought he was just retarded, I settled with that one.
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