Hard rock casino hollywood Florida

[onetobet]

I have been counting for a long time but at the seminole casino in hollywood florida i just can not win!!!. I goto the bahamas alot and vegas and kill the tables. I play the KO count with true count, It just does not work t here been playing there for 2 years since they have been open. I play 6 and 8 decks. I have had counts of 15+ using ko on 6 decks and it seems all that still comes out are low cards. IS it me or do they stack the decks.

[Deathclutch]

Originally Posted by onetobet

I have been counting for a long time but at the seminole casino in hollywood florida i just can not win!!!. I goto the bahamas alot and vegas and kill the tables. I play the KO count with true count, It just does not work t here been playing there for 2 years since they have been open. I play 6 and 8 decks. I have had counts of 15+ using ko on 6 decks and it seems all that still comes out are low cards. IS it me or do they stack the decks.

I doubt they stack the decks. A high count doesn't guarantee a win of course. One way to check is to pick a specific card, say 5 of diamonds and keep track of how many you see. Watch a few shoes and see if you see something you shouldn't, like maybe 9 of them

[onetobet]

i have counted all fives in the shoe numerous times. And in 8 deck shoe have counted 30 many times when cut card hits, im yet to hit 33. But if it does ill know for sure.

[onetobet]

played today and hardrock in hollywood, I picked the 4 of clubs since when they used the blue deck we(other players and I) at the table noticed that that card came out multiple times in a row. So for each time the 4 of clubs came out i put a chip aside. And others at table watched me do this and even said there is a 4 of clubs put a chip aside. We got to 8 of them and figured there was none left( since we where playing 8 decks) when yet another 2 came out before cut card. Needless to say i will not be playing there anymore. If nobody beleives me I dont really care, i saw it with my own eyes. Pitboss even refused to show me rest of cards after we argued then spent time on phone probably trying to figure what happened out!!!

[Lonesome Gambler]

You saw ten 4C come out? I hate to say it, but you're right, I don't believe you. Seminole Hollywood rips off their patrons the old-fashioned way: having lousy games with a nearly 0.8%HA (6/8 H17 DAS noRSA noLS). In addition, the recently-signed compact allowing the Seminoles to continue to operate a monopoly in the state of Florida is nearly guaranteed to keep all of their scamming as "legitimate" and above-board as possible. Think about it: you run $25 minimum games 24/7 with a huge house edge and can barely keep a table dead even in off-peak hours. You have exclusive rights to the game of blackjack in the state of Florida and will for the next 5 years. The parimutuels are hoping that even the slightest slip-up will cause the Seminoles to lose their monopoly. Does stacking the decks make any sense at all?

[moo321]

Originally Posted by onetobet

played today and hardrock in hollywood, I picked the 4 of clubs since when they used the blue deck we(other players and I) at the table noticed that that card came out multiple times in a row. So for each time the 4 of clubs came out i put a chip aside. And others at table watched me do this and even said there is a 4 of clubs put a chip aside. We got to 8 of them and figured there was none left( since we where playing 8 decks) when yet another 2 came out before cut card. Needless to say i will not be playing there anymore. If nobody beleives me I dont really care, i saw it with my own eyes. Pitboss even refused to show me rest of cards after we argued then spent time on phone probably trying to figure what happened out!!!

Call gaming immediately.

You're going to get flamed, but thank you for telling everyone. Cheating is serious, and it DOES happen, in spite of everyone saying it's all negative variance.

[onetobet]

i agree they have no reason to cheat, But I am telling you we at the table did count the 4c's and there was more then 8. If someone told me this i would not beleive it. But i know what i saw, maybe we counted wrong but i did put a chip aside for each one on the table. Did it for three shoes after and there where 7,8,8, before cut card hit. I have heard many stories coming out of this casino are they true? Im starting to belive them. As for above comment i agree, seminoles got alot to lose if they cheated, they have enough bad players there to take advanatge of there bad rules. But not showing cards to players makes you wonder.!!! If they had nothing to hide show me the cards!!!! If there isnt more then 8 prove it. It only takes a few minutes, casino was slow this morning.

[Lonesome Gambler]

Originally Posted by moo321

Call gaming immediately.

You're going to get flamed, but thank you for telling everyone. Cheating is serious, and it DOES happen, in spite of everyone saying it's all negative variance.

There is no "gaming" in the state of FL. This is a sovereign Native casino. I'm not saying that casinos don't cheat, I'm saying that this particular casino already makes an absurd amount of money without cheating and they have much more at stake than a typical casino involved in a cheating scheme. The Seminoles operate 7 casinos in Florida, and they have been given exclusive rights to offer banked table games in the state, as well as Vegas-style slots. As much as casinos often get risk vs. reward all wrong, this just doesn't add up.

[onetobet]

lonesome i agree with you 100%. I could not beleive it myself. The dealer was even shocked!!! But didnt say a word!!! I know alot of players from this casino, and have heard some bad stories. I just posted to see if anyone else has experienced this anywhere or ever!!!

[moo321]

Originally Posted by Lonesome Gambler

There is no "gaming" in the state of FL. This is a sovereign Native casino. I'm not saying that casinos don't cheat, I'm saying that this particular casino already makes an absurd amount of money without cheating and they have much more at stake than a typical casino involved in a cheating scheme. The Seminoles operate 7 casinos in Florida, and they have been given exclusive rights to offer banked table games in the state, as well as Vegas-style slots. As much as casinos often get risk vs. reward all wrong, this just doesn't add up.

I agree with you it would be stupid for them to do that.

However, we also have an eyewitness that counted extra low cards. You don't have to establish a motive for a crime if you have an eyewitness.