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Old April 15th, 2010, 09:30 PM
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I went to Vegas for the first time for one day. The blackjack rules where absolutely horrible for low rollers $10 minimum a hand. They had 6 deck shoes with continus shufflers, hit soft 17. In New york, New York I saw an 8 deck 6-5 game. The Bellejo is an unbelievably nice hotel and casino but you have to play a $100 a hand minimum to get good double deck rules. On an empty table I asked if they would lower the minimum because it was a super juicy game just too rich for me and they wouldn't accomediate me. The rules for $10 a hand minimum players suck they are like 6 deck shoes, continus shufflers, and hit soft 17. I thought in vegas they stayed on soft 17.

Hooters Casino has the worst $100 slot promotion in history. They advertised a $100 in free slot play so I went over there to check it out. The value of that $100 in free slot play was under $1. The deal was this they would stick a $100 bill into a machine you would get 20 credits and if you got it up to 1,700 credits you would win $50!
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Old April 15th, 2010, 09:39 PM
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Next time try downtown (Binions, El Cortez, etc.). There are some tables down there that are just as good (if not better), with $5-10 mins. But don't expect to get away with big spreads.
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Old April 15th, 2010, 10:15 PM
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...plan to stay for more than one day, get yourself a rental car and a copy of Current Blackjack News. There is whole world of casinos that aren't on the Strip or Downtown and most no more than a half hour drive.

Give it a try and good luck!

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Old April 15th, 2010, 11:43 PM
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Yes, if you can play a $25 min you can get perfectly good games. You can walk around spreading $25-$200 all day, with decent win rate and probably no heat.
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Old April 19th, 2010, 02:08 PM
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I went to Vegas for the first time for one day. The blackjack rules where absolutely horrible for low rollers $10 minimum a hand. They had 6 deck shoes with continus shufflers, hit soft 17. In New york, New York I saw an 8 deck 6-5 game. The Bellejo is an unbelievably nice hotel and casino but you have to play a $100 a hand minimum to get good double deck rules. On an empty table I asked if they would lower the minimum because it was a super juicy game just too rich for me and they wouldn't accomediate me. The rules for $10 a hand minimum players suck they are like 6 deck shoes, continus shufflers, and hit soft 17. I thought in vegas they stayed on soft 17.

Hooters Casino has the worst $100 slot promotion in history. They advertised a $100 in free slot play so I went over there to check it out. The value of that $100 in free slot play was under $1. The deal was this they would stick a $100 bill into a machine you would get 20 credits and if you got it up to 1,700 credits you would win $50!
At Mirage you can find a DD game for $25 where the dealer stays on soft 17, but the same exact game at Bellagio is often $100 but sometimes $50. Many MGM owned casinos have 6D, S-17 tables but never for under $25 and often they are hidden in the back of the casino. Games up front are generally the worst games just to attract the sucker who has to play the first table they see.

Off the strip you can find some decent H-17 DD games that are decent because of pen, but big spread should equal short sessions.
The poster who said get a copy of CBJN is giving you good advice, especially on a first trip to Vegas. Once you check out CBJN you will find that you can save a lot of time and shoe leather by eliminating many casinos (including everything offered by HET), but CBJN does not tell you everything. There are a few games not mentioned and when they say pen varies, you have to be there to see just how much pen can vary in the same casino sometimes.
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Old April 19th, 2010, 03:55 PM
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Midweek, you can always find 6D H17 games with otherwise good rules for $5-10 at MGM, NY, Mirage, and a few others. On weekends and peak times, you'll likely find $15 minimums. Like mentioned before, downtown has a few gems. There are also great games (better than the strip for low-rollers) slightly off the strip that are more than worth driving to if you have a car.
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Old April 19th, 2010, 04:04 PM
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I went to Vegas for the first time for one day. The blackjack rules where absolutely horrible for low rollers $10 minimum a hand. They had 6 deck shoes with continus shufflers, hit soft 17. In New york, New York I saw an 8 deck 6-5 game. The Bellejo is an unbelievably nice hotel and casino but you have to play a $100 a hand minimum to get good double deck rules. On an empty table I asked if they would lower the minimum because it was a super juicy game just too rich for me and they wouldn't accomediate me. The rules for $10 a hand minimum players suck they are like 6 deck shoes, continus shufflers, and hit soft 17. I thought in vegas they stayed on soft 17.

Hooters Casino has the worst $100 slot promotion in history. They advertised a $100 in free slot play so I went over there to check it out. The value of that $100 in free slot play was under $1. The deal was this they would stick a $100 bill into a machine you would get 20 credits and if you got it up to 1,700 credits you would win $50!
After many trips to Vegas, I hardly ever go downtown. I did enjoy playing at Fitzgeralds with low minimums and decent rules last trip. I always find good games at Mandalay Bay, Montecarlo, Bellagio, and Imperial Palace.
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After many trips to Vegas, I hardly ever go downtown. I did enjoy playing at Fitzgeralds with low minimums and decent rules last trip. I always find good games at Mandalay Bay, Montecarlo, Bellagio, and Imperial Palace.
MC and IP? What are you finding there?
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Old April 19th, 2010, 04:34 PM
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MC and IP? What are you finding there?

It's been a few months ago. Montecarlo six deck, S17, DOA, DAS, RSA, $10
IP $10 DD with similar rules.
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i was at IP a few weeks ago and no DD there. and not at MC either
 

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