Cipher Software

[123torrent]

Ok, first off, I briefly searched around in the forums and didn't really see much more than a mention of this software, but if there is a thread on it, just point me to it.

I trust some of you guya have heard/seen this guys software and I wanted your opinions on it.

This guy sells a piece software for almost $600 U.S where you have to manually key in your hands/dealers hands and it charts an alleged pattern deciding on when its time to up your bet enormously to chase your loss and come out with a profit. I found it laughable at first, so I'm not sure if I'm missing something or not a pro enough to understand. I don't mean to come on and bash this guy's software, but come on... I mean, I could basically do the same tracking with a pencil and paper, and look at the "runs" of 4 losses then 1 win, then 4 losses then 3 wins, etc, etc. The concept seems insane ... $1 flat bets until there's some imaginery feeling that its going to turn then a large bet, which on the video demonstration always wins, of course, getting you back into proft status. Quit after 40 hands and you always win. Uhhh... yeah, ok. How about in the real world when you make that $256 bet and lose and are now down over $500. Back to $1 flat bets?
Insane.

[ScottH]

This might work if you are allowed to bring your laptop into the casino and enter in the hands, but I doubt that is possible. And most online casinos shuffle to often to get a huge advantage by counting. But by entering in the cards played you can know when you have the advantage, I just dont know if it's practical or not. And you certainly cant guarantee you will have profit after 40 hands.

[Gregory]

I watched the videos also and have to agree that I also am not "pro enough to understand". He did make a good chunk of change on the the videos though, and didn't even screw with the whole bonus thing. I have to respect that, even if there was some martingaling involved.
I did find it strange that on his website his says:

After tracking and recording better than 7,000,000 hands of Blackjack I can tell you for sure that I have not come across a single casino software that is not drastically affected when increased wager amounts are in play. You will be much better off staying in the lower wager amounts

But in the videos he is tossing up table max bets of $500.00.

[CIPHER]

Originally Posted by Gregory

I watched the videos also and have to agree that I also am not "pro enough to understand". He did make a good chunk of change on the the videos though, and didn't even screw with the whole bonus thing. I have to respect that, even if there was some martingaling involved.
I did find it strange that on his website his says:

But in the videos he is tossing up table max bets of $500.00.

Hi Gregory:

I was Googling around a bit today and came across this site and thread and thought I might add a little commentary hereto. First off I developed the CIPHER program a little more than eight years ago now and I've recorded well over 10,000,000 hands of play on the Internet.

You're quit right in saying that I do not take advantage of Bonus play as I for one feel that they're the kiss of death to any successful gambling a person might enjoy.

Lastly, your comment of my "tossing up table max bets of $500.00." Now you can probably understand why there are several videos on my site to show how when and why I toss up those table max bets of $500.00.

Here's a recent and little more lively sample of those table max bets you speak off.

Have a good one.

Cipher

[ScottH]

Originally Posted by CIPHER

Hi Gregory:

I was Googling around a bit today and came across this site and thread and thought I might add a little commentary hereto. First off I developed the CIPHER program a little more than eight years ago now and I've recorded well over 10,000,000 hands of play on the Internet.

You're quit right in saying that I do not take advantage of Bonus play as I for one feel that they're the kiss of death to any successful gambling a person might enjoy.

Lastly, your comment of my "tossing up table max bets of $500.00." Now you can probably understand why there are several videos on my site to show how when and why I toss up those table max bets of $500.00.

Here's a recent and little more lively sample of those table max bets you speak off.

Have a good one.

Cipher

What is the address to your site?

[CIPHER]

Originally Posted by ScottH

What is the address to your site?

Hi ScottH:

http://www.cipherblackjack.com

Have a good one.

Cipher

[E-town-guy]

Is anyone considering buying the software?

[CIPHER]

Originally Posted by E-town-guy

Is anyone considering buying the software?

Hi E-town-guy:

What's to buy?

The Visual Basic program is free (see below).

Have a good one.

Cipher

[ScottH]

This program is only for people who think online poker is rigged. In a fair game analyzing trends or patterns won't help you.

[CIPHER]

Originally Posted by ScottH

This program is only for people who think online poker is rigged. In a fair game analyzing trends or patterns won't help you.

Hi Scott:

Well it sounds like you and I ought to hook up and go head to head on say 50 sessions of Blackjack at say 35 hands a session and you'll find out how ridiculous that statement is. And since you seem to be the all knowing authority on Blackjack I'll even let you name the stakes for this little endeavor.

Have a good one.

Cipher