how to pretend you are not a counter ?

Sucker

Well-Known Member
#3
Don't move your lips with the count. Sounds funny, but I actually SAW someone doing this once.:laugh:

Try not to get caught staring at the cards on the table.

If the floorman says something to you, look him straight in the eye & answer him, even if it means losing the count.

Eventually, this skill will just COME to you.
 

MAZ

Well-Known Member
#4
How to pretend not be a counter? Thats easy act like 95% of those posting here. Cry about cheating casinos, overbet your bankroll, cloud your play with countless cover plays that ruin EV, listen to no one that has a clue how to play because you know it all already,fool youself into thinking getting drunk at the table actually makes you a better player, be overly paranoid of every move the pit personnel make because of course they're after you, worry more about how fast you can count instead of how well you play, make thousands of posts on bj internet message boards to raise your player status, and above all, talk much more about the theory of the game and apply it very sparingly.

Or you could just examine the ploppies that play the game and emulate their moves that actually can be used by that of someone playing with an advantage. Their can be a very fine indistinguishable line between what a good experienced counter looks like and what a ploppy looks like. Make that line fuzzy without killing your advantage and you have it.
 

Sucker

Well-Known Member
#6
MAZ said:
Or you could just examine the ploppies that play the game and emulate their moves that actually can be used by that of someone playing with an advantage. Their can be a very fine indistinguishable line between what a good experienced counter looks like and what a ploppy looks like. Make that line fuzzy without killing your advantage and you have it.
Excellent advice. The last sentence sums it up in a nutshell.
 
#7
Dyepaintball12 said:
Card Counters keep to themselves, don't drink, and don't tip.

:grin:
Excellent thought!

Counters never get into altercations with other players, never complain about dealers or service, never celebrate when they win nor pitch a fit when they lose.
 

jopke

Active Member
#8
I agree, showing some emotion, no matter how forced, can help. Laughing, looking relaxed, talking to the people around you, etc.

Also, I wouldn't be too worried about raising your bet as much as lowering it. I see gamblers chase losses and try to get even all the time. It is not that uncommon for someone to go from $10 - $100+. But it is unusual for them to immediately go back to $10. So for me, if I have my max bets out, I leave when the shoe ends (or the count drops) so I fit the profile of someone "going all in" or trying to get even. If I am going to keep playing, I usually take a break to eat or play poker and then return to a different pit.
 

golfnut101

Well-Known Member
#9
MAZ said:
Thats easy act like 95% of those posting here. Cry about cheating casinos, overbet your bankroll, cloud your play with countless cover plays that ruin EV, listen to no one that has a clue how to play
Haha, I love it !
 

Katweezel

Well-Known Member
#10
Sucker said:
Excellent advice. The last sentence sums it up in a nutshell.
Nice to see MAZ back doing what he does so well; offering very sound advice. He habitually hits the nail on the head; but this time was different... he did it in a more ah, guarded sort of manner.:laugh: Good on ya mate! :grin:
 

QFIT

Well-Known Member
#11
MAZ said:
How to pretend not be a counter? Thats easy act like 95% of those posting here.
I wear a hat that says "MAZ."

Edit: Oops, someone might think I was criticizing MAZ's post criticizing everyone here. No, it stands for "Mad About Zengrifter."
 

QFIT

Well-Known Member
#13
Good grief. Another refuge from the chuck-a-luck and keno clubs.

Edit: Oops. I forgot I never read those forums.
 

beyondbj

Well-Known Member
#14
any bs change can hidden your skill

such as hit on A7 vs 9 and 10 , 16 vs 7 8
this seems arise the attention


also the consistent arise your bet
or same size for three spots seems also make sure u are
betting under your counting system
 

Deathclutch

Well-Known Member
#15
maz said:
how to pretend not be a counter? Thats easy act like 95% of those posting here. Cry about cheating casinos, overbet your bankroll, cloud your play with countless cover plays that ruin ev, listen to no one that has a clue how to play because you know it all already,fool youself into thinking getting drunk at the table actually makes you a better player, be overly paranoid of every move the pit personnel make because of course they're after you, worry more about how fast you can count instead of how well you play, make thousands of posts on bj internet message boards to raise your player status, and above all, talk much more about the theory of the game and apply it very sparingly.

Or you could just examine the ploppies that play the game and emulate their moves that actually can be used by that of someone playing with an advantage. Their can be a very fine indistinguishable line between what a good experienced counter looks like and what a ploppy looks like. Make that line fuzzy without killing your advantage and you have it.
Post of the year.

Edit: Don't get a big head, it's still early in the year.
 

MAZ

Well-Known Member
#16
Deathclutch said:
Post of the year.

Edit: Don't get a big head, it's still early in the year.
It ain't that early, and besides the only thing that surpasses my ego, is the skill that warrants it. :cool:
 

daddybo

Well-Known Member
#17
MAZ said:
It ain't that early, and besides the only thing that surpasses my ego, is the skill that warrants it. :cool:
Ahh, The hallmark of a true AP. Knowing one's self and one's limits or lack there of. :laugh::laugh::laugh:
 

daddybo

Well-Known Member
#19
Automatic Monkey said:
I'm just a crank and a drunk, no AP skills at all. Ask the pit boss, he'll tell you. :cool2:
:laugh: Yeah, I'm just an illiterate redneck who can't add his cards up. I even had an Asian dealer ask me what country I was from! :laugh::laugh:
 

Sucker

Well-Known Member
#20
beyondbj said:
any bs change can hidden your skill

such as hit on A7 vs 9 and 10 , 16 vs 7 8
this seems arise the attention


also the consistent arise your bet
or same size for three spots seems also make sure u are
betting under your counting system
Huh?

Basically, what YOU'RE saying is: The way to pretend you're not a counter is to stop counting cards, and then BECOME a ploppie.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
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