Tracking Aces in Machine Shuffles?
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What is the difference between 2D autoshuffler and CSM?
(Is CSM the one that sits on top of the table with a round part, and the dealer will occassionally take the 1/2 deck or so that's in the discard tray and put it into the machine?)
(Is 2D autoshuffler the machine that's in the back of the table, but it's top is flush with the table? Once the shoe is finished, then the dealer takes the whole shoeful of cards and puts into this machine, and reloads it using a second deck of cards that just came out the other side of the machine.)
I've tried ace sequencing with the second type of shuffler. Not very successful... any one else with good success on this?
(Is CSM the one that sits on top of the table with a round part, and the dealer will occassionally take the 1/2 deck or so that's in the discard tray and put it into the machine?)
(Is 2D autoshuffler the machine that's in the back of the table, but it's top is flush with the table? Once the shoe is finished, then the dealer takes the whole shoeful of cards and puts into this machine, and reloads it using a second deck of cards that just came out the other side of the machine.)
I've tried ace sequencing with the second type of shuffler. Not very successful... any one else with good success on this?
I've seen at least two, possibly three, models of Autoshufflers. There may be more out there. I'm not sure about the internal mechanism of each shuffler though.
Ace keycarding in autoshufflers only works with 2D, right? - and even then, only with some autoshufflers, right? If there are 4, 6, or 8D, it's too difficult to accurately predict. And ace sequencing in multideck shoes is very variable, right?
I've heard that some Autoshufflers can be programmed via optical recognition to clump groups of cards together - like face cards, aces, or small cards. Is that just a rumor or is that true? And if it is true, isn't that immoral?
Ace keycarding in autoshufflers only works with 2D, right? - and even then, only with some autoshufflers, right? If there are 4, 6, or 8D, it's too difficult to accurately predict. And ace sequencing in multideck shoes is very variable, right?
I've heard that some Autoshufflers can be programmed via optical recognition to clump groups of cards together - like face cards, aces, or small cards. Is that just a rumor or is that true? And if it is true, isn't that immoral?
Hi friends,
a bit heretic question :
What's the gain of tracking aces in CSM's.
Assume you get one more ace as usual, that's an advantage of 3% over
the house.
Is it really 3% or must I (sorry my English) deduct the house advantage
for example of 0.6 % ?
Ok assume you play at a table with 3 ploppies, for my experiances 4spots it's the best.
The chance the dealer gets the ace is small, but it happens don't bother.
The chance of getting an ace sequence with 4 spots is much higher as at
at full table.
If you play heads up it's better , but it' very hard to remember the keys
because the game is to fast and if you expect an ace you must play
3 other spots with min.
Now the gain: in an hour expect 4 big bets of $ 200 or EURO----huuuuuh,
(both are bull--in future)
3% advantage means $24,- hour, not very much and it's hard brainwork,
handshuffled games are much, much better, or wheelwatching in the same
casino.
The good news, the flux are small, 50 units are enough if someone has my
level.
I do it only for training purposes because the casino is 20 minutes by bike
or 40 minutes on foot.
And what I said wheel watching has much more gain, go to rouletteplace.com
or gamblersglen com, avoid the computer.
the best Elhombre:cool2::devil:
a bit heretic question :
What's the gain of tracking aces in CSM's.
Assume you get one more ace as usual, that's an advantage of 3% over
the house.
Is it really 3% or must I (sorry my English) deduct the house advantage
for example of 0.6 % ?
Ok assume you play at a table with 3 ploppies, for my experiances 4spots it's the best.
The chance the dealer gets the ace is small, but it happens don't bother.
The chance of getting an ace sequence with 4 spots is much higher as at
at full table.
If you play heads up it's better , but it' very hard to remember the keys
because the game is to fast and if you expect an ace you must play
3 other spots with min.
Now the gain: in an hour expect 4 big bets of $ 200 or EURO----huuuuuh,
(both are bull--in future)
3% advantage means $24,- hour, not very much and it's hard brainwork,
handshuffled games are much, much better, or wheelwatching in the same
casino.
The good news, the flux are small, 50 units are enough if someone has my
level.
I do it only for training purposes because the casino is 20 minutes by bike
or 40 minutes on foot.
And what I said wheel watching has much more gain, go to rouletteplace.com
or gamblersglen com, avoid the computer.
the best Elhombre:cool2::devil: