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Old May 22nd, 2006, 10:45 PM
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I'll be in Vegas June 18th,for a few days.Anyone care to recommend the best low stakes(5-25) game in town.I'm staying at The Vegas Club,but will have a car.
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Old May 22nd, 2006, 11:22 PM
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You're in the right spot! Downtown is a good place to be for red action. Here are a few suggestions: Vegas Club, Plaza, Horseshoe, El Cortez. With a 1:5 spread you will want to Wong out at least twice an hour. The more the better since most of those casinos are DD games which require a bigger spread. If you can leave around -2 or -3 you should have a decent win rate.

You might also want to check out Fitzgerald’s and Fremont on your way between those casinos. Sometimes you can Wong in on a DD game on your way through. Their games have pretty bad pen and are barely worth playing even with aggressive backcounting, but it doesn't hurt to do a little trolling. Also, the California can be a good place to find sloppy dealers if you don’t feel like walking all the way to the El Cortez or Western.

Since you have a car you can also check out Boulder Highway. There are several decent places there as well.

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Old May 22nd, 2006, 11:29 PM
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I'll be in Vegas June 18th,for a few days.Anyone care to recommend the best low stakes(5-25) game in town.I'm staying at The Vegas Club,but will have a car.
Hey Shadroch - you have just enough time to learn basic strategy... or do you fancy that you know already? When would you split 9s, for example? zg
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Old May 22nd, 2006, 11:54 PM
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Hey Shadroch - you have just enough time to learn basic strategy... or do you fancy that you know already? When would you split 9s, for example? zg
You sure like to assume that people don't know basic strategy...
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Old May 23rd, 2006, 01:09 AM
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You sure like to assume that people don't know basic strategy...
Its generally a safe assumption. zg
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Old May 23rd, 2006, 01:40 AM
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Its generally a safe assumption. zg
You're right, unfortunately. I can't imagine why anyone would play blackjack without knowing BS, but that's just me.

Before I knew anything about blackjack my friends kept trying to get me to play blackjack. I was scared of playing blackjack because it seemed like there was too much "guessing" involved. I wanted to play the game with my friends so I decided to learn BS. Then I realized, why even play the game with only BS?

Too many people gamble. Even people that are really smart gamble. Gambling seems to just destroy people's common sense. When people are down money they keep playing trying to recover their losses even when they know they shouldn't. And casinos thrive on this. That is why I am learning to count, to take the casinos money.

Another thing that really bothers me with casinos is that they never tell someone to leave because they have a gambling problem or have lost too much, but they will ban you in a heartbeat if you win a little money from them.

I don't know if I should have posted this here or start a new thread, becuase it is a little off of the original topic.
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Old May 23rd, 2006, 03:59 AM
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You're right, unfortunately. I can't imagine why anyone would play blackjack without knowing BS, but that's just me.

Before I knew anything about blackjack my friends kept trying to get me to play blackjack. I was scared of playing blackjack because it seemed like there was too much "guessing" involved. I wanted to play the game with my friends so I decided to learn BS. Then I realized, why even play the game with only BS?

Too many people gamble. Even people that are really smart gamble. Gambling seems to just destroy people's common sense. When people are down money they keep playing trying to recover their losses even when they know they shouldn't. And casinos thrive on this. That is why I am learning to count, to take the casinos money.
It really depends on what you're trying to get out of gambling. If you're doing it to make a buck then you need to know how to count. If gambling is something you do for fun on the odd weekend who cares if the person knows BS. They probably play a little bit of every game (likely incorrectly) but they have a good time and sometimes win a bit. Thats fine for them and they couldn't be bothered to learn BS.

For those people who take gambling too far then BS or even knowing how to count really isn't going to help them. They need to stop.
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Old May 24th, 2006, 05:21 AM
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Another thing that really bothers me with casinos is that they never tell someone to leave because they have a gambling problem or have lost too much, but they will ban you in a heartbeat if you win a little money from them.

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It isnt the casino's fault, why would they care if you have a gambling problem? Should Mcdonald's ban fat people from eating there? No it comes down to personal choice and responsibility. Also who aer the casinos to say who has a gambling problem? I hate when people blame others or establishments for there personal problems of being weak and stupid.
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Old May 24th, 2006, 05:56 AM
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Another thing that really bothers me with casinos is that they never tell someone to leave because they have a gambling problem or have lost too much, but they will ban you in a heartbeat if you win a little money from them.
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It isnt the casino's fault, why would they care if you have a gambling problem? Should Mcdonald's ban fat people from eating there? No it comes down to personal choice and responsibility. Also who aer the casinos to say who has a gambling problem? I hate when people blame others or establishments for there personal problems of being weak and stupid.
Actually there ARE casinos will tell someone to leave when they have lost too much. Certain states have imposed a loss limit law that casinos have to abide by. For example, if I remember correctly Missouri has a $500 loss limit which is still mandatory.
So in this case McDonald's is indeed turning the fat person away.
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Old May 24th, 2006, 07:24 AM
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I'm just guessing Gregory, but I would think that the humanitarian effort of Missouri when it imposed the $500 loss maximum (in a 2-hour time span and then wait another 2 hours before buying in again for another $500 max) was a concession Missouri made to the moralists in order to get the laws altered to allow gambling in that State. Everyone wanted the money the State could rake in taxes, but Missouri is in the Bible Belt and had to have some restriction to appease their perceived sense of morality!

But you are correct....McDonalds does turn fat people away in Missouri.
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